Why is HRC stooping So Low?
I’m becoming increasingly concerned about the stridency and inaccuracy of charges in Iowa -- especially coming from my old friend. While I’m as hard-boiled as they come about what’s said in campaigns, I just don’t think Dems should stoop to this. First, HRC attacked O's plan for keep Social Security solvent. Social Security doesn’t need a whole lot to keep it going – it’s in far better shape than Medicare – but everyone who’s looked at it agrees it will need bolstering (I was a trustee of the Social Security Trust Fund ten years ago, and I can vouch for this). Obama wants to do it by lifting the cap on the percent of income subject to Social Security payroll taxes, which strikes me as sensible. That cap is now close to $98,000 (it’s indexed), and the result is highly regressive. (Bill Gates satisfies his yearly Social Security obligations a few minutes past midnight on January 1 every year.) The cap doesn’t have to be lifted all that much to keep Social Security solvent – maybe to $115,00. That’s a progressive solution to the problem. HRC wants to refer Social Security to a commission. That's avoiding the issue, and it's irresponsible: A commission will likely call either for raising the retirement age (that’s what Greenspan’s Social Security commission came up with in the 1980s) or increasing the payroll tax on all Americans. So when HRC charges that Obama’s plan would “raise taxes” and her plan wouldn’t, she’s simply not telling the truth.
I’m equally concerned about her attack on his health care plan. She says his would insure fewer people than hers. I’ve compared the two plans in detail. Both of them are big advances over what we have now. But in my view Obama’s would insure more people, not fewer, than HRC’s. That’s because Obama’s puts more money up front and contains sufficient subsidies to insure everyone who’s likely to need help – including all children and young adults up to 25 years old. Hers requires that everyone insure themselves. Yet we know from experience with mandated auto insurance – and we’re learning from what’s happening in Massachusetts where health insurance is now being mandated – that mandates still leave out a lot of people at the lower end who can’t afford to insure themselves even when they’re required to do so. HRC doesn’t indicate how she’d enforce her mandate, and I can’t find enough money in HRC’s plan to help all those who won’t be able to afford to buy it. I’m also impressed by the up-front investments in information technology in O’s plan, and the reinsurance mechanism for coping with the costs of catastrophic illness. HRC is far less specific on both counts. In short: They’re both advances, but O’s is the better of the two. HRC has no grounds for alleging that O’s would leave out 15 million people.
Yesterday, HRC suggested O lacks courage. "There's a big difference between our courage and our convictions, what we believe and what we're willing to fight for," she told reporters in Iowa, saying Iowa voters will have a choice "between someone who talks the talk, and somebody who's walked the walk." Then asked whether she intended to raise questions about O’s character, she said: "It's beginning to look a lot like that."
I just don’t get it. If there’s anyone in the race whose history shows unique courage and character, it's Barack Obama. HRC’s campaign, by contrast, is singularly lacking in conviction about anything. Her pollster, Mark Penn, has advised her to take no bold positions and continuously seek the political center, which is exactly what she’s been doing.
All is fair in love, war, and politics. But this series of slurs doesn't serve HRC well. It will turn off voters in Iowa, as in the rest of the country. If she's worried her polls are dropping, this is not the way to build them back up.
I’m equally concerned about her attack on his health care plan. She says his would insure fewer people than hers. I’ve compared the two plans in detail. Both of them are big advances over what we have now. But in my view Obama’s would insure more people, not fewer, than HRC’s. That’s because Obama’s puts more money up front and contains sufficient subsidies to insure everyone who’s likely to need help – including all children and young adults up to 25 years old. Hers requires that everyone insure themselves. Yet we know from experience with mandated auto insurance – and we’re learning from what’s happening in Massachusetts where health insurance is now being mandated – that mandates still leave out a lot of people at the lower end who can’t afford to insure themselves even when they’re required to do so. HRC doesn’t indicate how she’d enforce her mandate, and I can’t find enough money in HRC’s plan to help all those who won’t be able to afford to buy it. I’m also impressed by the up-front investments in information technology in O’s plan, and the reinsurance mechanism for coping with the costs of catastrophic illness. HRC is far less specific on both counts. In short: They’re both advances, but O’s is the better of the two. HRC has no grounds for alleging that O’s would leave out 15 million people.
Yesterday, HRC suggested O lacks courage. "There's a big difference between our courage and our convictions, what we believe and what we're willing to fight for," she told reporters in Iowa, saying Iowa voters will have a choice "between someone who talks the talk, and somebody who's walked the walk." Then asked whether she intended to raise questions about O’s character, she said: "It's beginning to look a lot like that."
I just don’t get it. If there’s anyone in the race whose history shows unique courage and character, it's Barack Obama. HRC’s campaign, by contrast, is singularly lacking in conviction about anything. Her pollster, Mark Penn, has advised her to take no bold positions and continuously seek the political center, which is exactly what she’s been doing.
All is fair in love, war, and politics. But this series of slurs doesn't serve HRC well. It will turn off voters in Iowa, as in the rest of the country. If she's worried her polls are dropping, this is not the way to build them back up.

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OK, the son is not guilty of the father's sins does not apply to spouses. now, think of HRC schmoozing with Ruper Murdoch, and think of the Presidential pardon given to the likes of Marc Rich by her husband. Smells like the plutocratic stench of stealth Republicanism to me.
Finally, think of her vote to give Bush the authorization to use force against Iraq and then to be so naive as to think that he wouldn't grab that authority with alacrity. HRC should not be calling anyone on their lack of courage lest it shine a light on her lack of it. Not the kind of leader I want.
I agree with everything you've said, Mr. Reich. I was thinking that perhaps the dems have learned from the past that character assassinations of each other serve nobody. We'll see.
I also want to sympathize with you for what I imagine was an agonizing decision to criticize someone who was and probably still is your dear friend. You've got guts and honesty. Thanks.
So FR adulates O and looks for ways to dismiss HRC. It would have been more forthright of FR to state his support for O to alert readers about the BS laden comments.
Don't you proof read your work?
First, HRC attacked O's plan for keep Social Security solvent. ???
I'm glad you weren't Secretary of Education.
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“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
Hmmm, maybe it wasn't all GW's fault...
I don't know what the problems are between you and your old buddy Bill Clition. But it is beyond my belief that you should stoop so low as to mindlessly attach Mrs. Clinton. One does not visit a husband's sin to a wife and you apparently have violated that. Any neutral observe would agree that Hillary's plan is a better plan because it has individual mandate and it would cover more people. Somehow your eyes are so colored that you don't even mind you are supposed to be a professor capable of rational thinking.
Fred,
Don't bother to comment on the content of what was said. Oh, and "proof read" is one word.
Ok. I am a 63 year old conservative right wing born again Republican woman....I have always respected you, Mr. Reich, because of your blunt and willing ability to speak your point of view, clearly argue your principles and never back down. SO.....WHY ON EARTH ARE YOU SURPRISED BY HRC'S ATTACKS????? Where WERE you during the 90's? I thought you were "right on the scene" and SAW what she was. So today I must reconsider my perspective on your intellectual honesty. Either you missed the obvious at the time or you are lying about it now for some reason~~there's no other way to end up "surprised"....Ann
aimeymays, since when is stating simple facts a "mindless attack"? And, Juan, if looking at those facts makes you think Obama comes off better than Hillary, perhaps you should reconsider which candidate you support. Blind loyalty is a poor substitute for objective review of the facts, when deciding how to vote. You both owe Reich a vote of thanks for giving you an opportunity to open your eyes to which candidate is better on these issues.
Mr. Reich is correct and refreshing in his analysis of such important problems we are facing.I think HRC is becoming more open and we are seeing her true self.Even if she wants us to see herselfness or not.She is manipulative and a power hungry...lets think.... "witch".A Democratic Woman here speaking.
Hilary will gut Obama like a fish, and she'll crush you too if you keep printing pieces like this.
As a strong Obama supporter, I am very impressed that so many of our former President's cabinet and staff are supporting Obama and or his positions. I have been a huge fan of Mr. Reich's and therefore value the opinions he has expressed here.
Aimeymays--
In a debate between you and Dr. Reich on the merits of the detailed plans, forgive me if I put my money on the guy who's regarded as one of the foremost policy thinkers in the country.
Meanwhile, Sen. Clinton reveals her true colors more and more with each passing day. Her next act of political courage will be her first, at least since she entered public life for herself.
I agree. I think HRC will rue the day she said it will be 'fun' to smear Obama's character. Not only is this not what Democrats want right now, she simply doesn't have the moral high ground in this regard. She should seriously consider putting out more concrete policy proposals rather than engaging in character assassination.
"..."It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002"
I'm sure Hillary never said that. It's gotta be a Fox News Channel smear attempt. :-)
Why increase the ceiling on SS taxes to $115K & keep in place the same flat, regressive tax? How is that helping the middle class or working people?
Make it progressive. No ceiling and lower the rate on the first $100K for everyone, step the rate up for earnings over $100k.
Thank you for setting the record straight! I hope the good people of Iowa come across this entry.
Obama started the mudslinging to begin with. He'll be crushed like the little ant that he is by Hillary. Wah ha hahhhhh. And who is idiotic enough to say that Hillary isn't courageous?
Aimeymays,
By "any neutral observer," do you mean you? Because I know plenty of "neutral observers" (if there is such a thing) who think Obama's plan is better.
But that's not even the argument. Reich says that both health care plans are good--a vast improvement over what we have now. Reich's concern is that Clinton is purposely misrepresenting Obama's policy proposals and engaging in Rovian character attacks (such as trying to obscure Obama's gutsy opposition to the Iraq war by making baseless attacks about "courage" when she herself showed little courage in that crucible).
I suppose this is because she is uncomfortable engaging in real policy arguments. That would require too much looking at inconvenient things like Senate votes, facts, etc.
Professor Reich:
Please keep up the "mindless attacks."
Attn: soylnt blue -
Try this link - and the youtube of Bill...
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/bill-clinton-claims-he-opposed-iraq-war
It could be that Hillary is what we conervatives have said she is...
EXACTLY why I wrote 'Hillaryous,' and 10 other politically edgy tunes that say what needs to be said. Someone had to do it--this cop put down his guns and picked up his musical instruments to make 1 of a kind music @
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reich, you're a communist and should be hung for treason
Mr. Reich, thank you so much for your expertise and your candor. The American people want progress, not commissions and committees and endless discussion. We also want the presidential election to be about substantive issues. Why Senator Clinton insists on petty distractions and sideshows is beyond me. It should be obvious by now that we are sick and tired of this dysfunction. We desperately need and demand transparency and integrity.
Best wishes to you and I'm so glad I found your blog.
Woohhhh Robert, apparently you didn't get the Clinton/Krugman memo about how whatever policy Obama proposes is horribly flawed and worse than our current broken system. Get with the program man.
Let's see how long it takes for Hillary's henchmen to turn on Mr. Reich for committing the sin of criticizing the Queen. She and her husband have a long standing tradition of this and it won't be long before she or her puppets go on the offensive. I don't think I could stand four years of these charades.
Robert: As an educated guy, you need to use the words "ensure" and "insure" properly. Please spend a moment in front of a dictionary. Otherwise, these are interesting observations.
Laura says: RR would know more about HRC since he was present at the time. Now tell us more of what
really went on - more about WJC and
what he did to please HRC so they could maintain THEIR power.
There used to be (back in the good old days) a political maxim that "he may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he's OUR son-of-a-bitch" and that is completely missing from our public dialogue these days. The conventional wisdom was that if you beat the living peewadden out of your fellow-political-party candidates during the primaries, the opposition could continue for the general election.
I am 65 years old and the political climate is more poisonous right now than I have ever seen it.
The campaign started way too early (the day after the 11/06 election) and has become increasingly acrimonious. Way too much money is required and the mainstream media still is displaying their extreme pro-Clinton bias - which was perhaps understandable when applied to Bill Clinton - who had served as Governor of Arkansas for a good number of years, but to Hillary? What legislation bears her name after SEVEN years in office. These are things that Obama should be discussing and she needs to cut the nonsense of being "poor little woman being picked on by the big brutish men" when she's about as dainty as a bull elephant in heat!
I'm baffled why Mr. Reichs comments are mindless, but support Hillary has said that Obama has wanted to be president since he wrote an essay in kindergarten. That is comical...
Who didn't want to be President when they were kids before our cynical parents and the world views took over?
Maybe because I went to public school I'm missing this, but I wasn't and no one I know were writing ESSAYS IN KINDERGARTEN and I have since graduated from Harvard.
Why does your website say "Robert Reich is the nation's 22nd Secretary of Labor"? You are no longer Secretary of Labor. Please change the "is" to "was". Then again, your president didn't know the meaning of "is", so why should you?
I am a retired Army First Sergeant who has been a Republican my entire life. I would have laughed till I fell on the floor had anyone suggested I would ever vote for a Democrat. However, I intend to do that very thing and the other day found myself, inexplicably, donating to Obama's campaign. God help me.
The one single piece of advice I would give his campaign. Go on FOX during prime time.
There are many conservative leaning people like myself who would admire, respect and vote for him were he to cross the party line and talk to us. It would show tremendous character and would set him apart from all other candidates.
gayle miller,
True and hillarious :-D
I think that Mr.Reich's blog was great. He used facts to back up his assertions about both Social Security and health care and informed many of us. The fact is that Obama appears to be the better candidate for America's problems today, not of yesterday.
How could Hillary stoop so low? Where have you been? Try remembering her attacks and IRS audits of the women her husband was accused of sexually assaulting. We're not talking one or two but many. I am still amazed that any woman could vote for Bill or his co-conspirator wife with his track record and her help. She is being shown for who she is and as Obamas numbers go up and hers down it's gonna get a lot more "fun".
Reich makes the point that Bill Gates pays his FICA in the first minutes of each year, in order to justify raising the wage cap to $115,000 from $98,000?
Classic example of Reich invoking the super rich straw man of class envy to screw in fact those intreped enough to enter the upper end of the middle class for the first time.
Sgt Tedirene -
You are ordered to read the following column by George Will about Obama and what he's not saying. The guy's a walking, talking Hallmark card - no specifics at all.
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/will081307.php3
I wish Hillary would stop this stuff so that she can win the nomination so that she can be beaten. Simple enough.
Yes, thank you for actually having the courage to speak the truth. Hillary is getting desperate and judging from her supporters comments on your piece, they are too.
Mr. Reich:
In a future article, please tell us about the Social Security Trust Fund fairy tale you mention in this article. Can you describe how this "Trust fund" differs from how normal people think of a trust fund?
Reich is one to talk. I remember hearing him shoot off a bunch of desperate insults when Sean Hannity had him on. Reich is a classic sozialist, trying to switch to the winning side.
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/will100107.php3
Sorry, better questions for the O in this column.
Robert Reich say hello to Vince Foster, Ron Brown, Ed Willey, Jim McDougal....you sealed your fate.
Let's face the facts. This woman is clueless and a loser. She does'nt know anything about the issues. Everytime something rears its ugly face which smells of the Clinton machine or scandel, she is shocked or suprised. So let me get this straight...Madam President...Iranian Nukes are inbound to the CONUS..HRC's response: "Gee I am shocked and suprised.....5,000 degrees C later it is too late...
If Obama's decision to parrot the Beltway pundits' position on a fake Social Security crisis is bold, the word may not mean what I think it does.
The fact that telephone pollsters survey only land lines (and not cell phones) bodes ill for HRC, and hence her apparently desperate panic. My impression is that younger voters A) skew heavily toward Obama and B) often don't have land lines, just cell phones.
I think we're in for a surpising primary season. My guess is that Obama will surprise on the Democratic side, and Ron Paul will surprise on the Republican side.
Personally, I support Obama for president.
Mr. Reich,
Respectfully, I appreciate your blog (it was an enjoyable read) but to ask "why?" of your old friend HRC seems more than a little silly to me. YOU know these people better than anyone else here and you should know that the end justifies the means in the Clinton household/campaign/family and the end is power and money (though perhaps not in that order). There is nothing that HRC does that surprises me and nothing in heaven or hell would persuade me to vote for any ticket with her on it.
Pete in NYC
Why don't all these well off "progressive" people just put their money where their mouths are and send extra money to the IRS each year? After all, they're greedy rich people that don't deserve their money anyway, right?
Congratulations on saying what needed to be said, including mention of the unethical and union-busting Mark Penn as chief centricity strategist. Whenever I suggest that HRC is blurring, fogging and evading, the Hillary trolls turn out in force to change the subject to how she is treated unfairly by the media. I guess that now includes you.
I think you're spot on about HRC's attacks on Obama. In addition to what you said, the type of nitpicky criticism she's using strikes me as awfully unproductive and likely to undermine the "inevitability" angle of her campaign. It makes her look very small. Usually, inevitable and small don't go together.
Thanks for your observations on the Obama and HRC's health care plans. It's easy to get lost in the rough when candidates start comparing these thing. I appreciate your dispassionate remarks on the subject.
Just discovered that you had a blog! I'll be back often.
Mr. Reich:
Where were you, in 1992, when Hillary was coordinating the response to "bimbo eruptions" by making sure women like Gennifer Flower - who were telling the truth - were slimed in the media?
Did you believe Juanita Broaddrick when she went on national tv and told NBC's Lisa Myers that Bill Clinton raped her?
Are you happy that the Clintons destroyed Monica Lewinsky's life?
You know Hillary is in trouble when liberal Dems start taking her to task. Like her husband, she is trying to play both sides against the middle. Bill had some success doing that, but Hillary is not quite that good. This primary season could become very interesting. Depending what he does in Iowa, Obama may be a force to deal. Of course, Hillary doesn't want anyone to "throw mud" unless she is the one doing it.
I can not believe you, Mr.Reich. Some friend. Where were you all summer and fall when Obama was calling Hillary disengenious, dishonest, too polarizing, just basically a wife not an advisor to the president, Bush-Cheney lite, too ambitious, and anything else he could fling at her? Excuse me. At some point she has to stick up for herself.
I'm a conservative, a Republican and a member of the vast, right-wing conspiracy, but I found it refreshing to read a Democrat who is intelligent, offers thoughtful insight--and does so without calling our President "Hitler!" What a contrast to so much of the mindless name calling of the loony left. If a Republican wins the Whitehouse, it will be in large part because so many Democrats apparently can think no higher than third grade, school-yard invective.
Thanks, Mr Reich, while I do not agree with you on much you say, it is a joy to read someone who makes me think.
Mr. Riescccccccccccccccccccccccch,
Why have you waited so long to bring these facts the attention of the people? Just because one is well educated does not mean you have common sense, intelligence, or intestinal fortitude.
Hillary, Obama, Huckabee, Rudy, it does not matter. Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like "America Deceived' from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.
Support Dr. Ron Paul and save this great nation.
Last link (before Google Books bends to gov't Will and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)
Truth Detector: Sorry my friend. He might not be saying a heck of a lot. But at least what he does say means something, it does not appear to be BS, evasive or ego driven.
I have worked for men in the Army uncannily like Obama. They were outstanding leaders. That's just my humble opinion.
I became a Democrat last Friday and I do not accept change easily. I frankly don't much care for most folks west of the Rio Grande. No disrespect intended.
I honestly think that all other candidates from either party are simply chaff.
It is also important that Robert Reich, or someone similarly qualified, should publish an op-ed piece in the New York Times to counter Paul Krugman's very unfair and unkind attack on Obama on this issue.
Krugman's argument was that not only was it better and more progressive to have mandated purchase of health coverage be universal, but that such a mandate, as in HRC's proposal is THE progressive position.
Hence, it followed in Krugman's logic, that Obama was using rightwing talking points, and further, by having the impudence to argue that his plan was better, "mudslinging".
See: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/opinion/30krugman.html?n=Top/Opinion/Editorials%20and%20Op-Ed/Op-Ed/Columnists/Paul%20Krugman
I think that this column, appearing Nov 30 and widely publicized across the web, could be very damaging to Obama among unsuspecting liberals, and others looking for an excuse to sneer at his idealistic posture. (This is very popular among some of my fellow leftists).
Krugman's piece should not go unanswered in at least as major a venue as where it appeared, though good critiques by Eskow on Huffpo and Reed Hundt at TPM Cafe. But remember how Matt Bai's hatchet job on Kerry in The New York Times Magazine was echoed by antiKerry pundits across the country, deeply damaging his campaign and possibly costing him the election.
SOS!!!!!!
Mr. Reich,
Why exactly do you call social security taxes "regressive". Yes Bill Gates pays the same social security as someone earning only $100,000/year. However they also get the same social security benefit. How is this regressive?
Raising the cap without raising the corresponding benefits will just push social security more towards being a welfare program rather than a retirement program.
Badger320, although your comment might be construed as satirical, as we're on a grammar police kick today I feel it appropriate to point out that the word you want is "hanged," not "hung."
Curtains are "hung." Men are "hanged." When you say men are "hung," that means something else . . .
And thank you Mr. Reich. I admire, support and agree with you and I hang on your every word.
Very well said, Professor Reich. I'm amazed at how many people simply despise HRC and how I myself am having so much trouble getting enthusiastic about her. I suspect part of it is subconcious misogynism, but I think there's something else: HRC doesn't smell quite right. And I think these attacks show why. Alright, I get it that it doesn't pay to act like a patsy because then people think you are one (The Kerry Rule.) But I also think there's a sizable gap between legitimate defense and nastiness. HRC is pretty close to the line. She needs to be careful. For some unknown reason people will accept nastiness in some candidates (e.g., W) and not in others, and I don't think voters want a nasty Hillary.
IF Obama wins Iowa, then what? Many have won Iowa and lost the nomination. Bill didn't even compete there. All this hoopla about Obama winning Iowa and then "catching fire", is just that. He is not going to with the nomination. Now, watch Chris Matthews invite Reich to his slimeball show just so they can bash Hillary and sing Obama praises. All these beltway political pundits and analysts have no idea how we fee in real America.
IF Obama wins Iowa, then what? Many have won Iowa and lost the nomination. Bill didn't even compete there. All this hoopla about Obama winning Iowa and then "catching fire", is just that. He is not going to with the nomination. Now, watch Chris Matthews invite Reich to his slimeball show just so they can bash Hillary and sing Obama praises. All these beltway political pundits and analysts have no idea how we fee in real America.
I am surprised that both you and HRC have made references to the wealthy paying more as a result of increasing the limit/ceiling on the SS tax. This tax affects people who earn wages, it does not affect the wealthy who get their incomes primarily from returns on investment. It is just plain dishonest to say that Bill Gates (using your example) will pay more if the ceiling is lifted to 115K or whatever.
Linda
Carlsbad CA
You should really just endorse Obama. You clearly do not support Hillary. Yes, it's less specific, but all encompassing. That's because she has enough political seasoning to know you leave some room for Congress to own the plan. Obama has offered nothing but platitudes. he hasn't taken a strong position on anything. You bais is outstanding.
Curious that back in 2000 we were entering a recession due to the "Clinton Tax Hike". Now HRC wants to ruin the economy again by using the same tactics as "The Der Slickmeister". I do not have a PHD in economics, but I have a degree in common sense from the school of reality. I will take this degree over your education any day of the year Mr. Riecccccccccccccccccccccccccch.
A point needs making re Social Security. Mr. Reich, your euphemism aside that raising the cap to $115,000 is a "progressive" solution, do you not pay the same $3.00 for a gallon of gas as the poor working stiff who mows your grass? Do you pay the same for a head of celery as your cleaning woman? Would you consider indexing the cost of these essentials based on how much the buyer can pay a progressive solution, too?
I hardly think so! Then why should Bill Gates pay more for his Social Security than I? For his contribution, he will be entitled to the same 'gallon' of SS benefits as you and I.
Isn't it time you hop off the Marxist bandwagon and abandon the notion, 'to each according to his needs; from each according to how much you can soak him!'
Mr. Reich,
why don't we just bring back the Jimmy Carter days again so we can all suffer equally.
obama reich 08. don't act like you've never thought of it.
My question to you Mr. Reich is this: Since you call Hillary Clinton your "friend", where were you when Obama was taking shots at her? Where were you when he was using republican talking points against your "friend"? Where were you when she was being hit from the left & the right? Where were you when Obama's folks were trying to get the media to see if there were any new sexual exploits against your former boss? Since you weren't around to defend your "friend", I would suggest you have squandered your opportunity to have any validity in defending Obama. With "friends" like you Hillary doesn't need Republicans
Why does everyone treat the primary process as if we only have two choices? Hillary and Obama, blah, blah, blah,. We do have choices that are better than either one of them.
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton? Sounds like the kind of corrupt dyanstic politics one expects of a Banana Republic. Can't we do better?
Some points:
1) She is not credible on any issue.
2) Does anyone doubt for a minute that 8 years of HRC rule will not result in the Clinton Foundation becoming one of the wealthiest in the country? The assets will be controlled by the dynamic duo when they leave office. They will become kingmakers to rival Soros.
3) Do we really want Bill lurking in the White House again?
The Republicans are tired, corrupt and need to be sent to the showers. The Clintons are merely corrupt. I'll take Obama.
Dr R,
I watch you a lot on Larry Kudlow's show on CNBC and suffice to say, disagree with you and your points of view. Having said that, I am pleasantly surprised to see you making some accurate comments on HRC. This is exactly what those of us on the right of center have been saying of HRC and your old boss, Pres C, all these years. They have no convictions! All they have been doing these years is feel the pulse of voters through polls and spout opinions accordingly. Where are their convictions?!
To his credit, Sen O is quite opposite HRC. He is not as virulent as HRC, he is fiercely partisan (as he should be), those of us on the right know that he is openly left of center (he is transparent and we appreciate it), he is intelligent and very well educated (not that HRC isn't). Sen O is also traversing the generational gap and in that respect, he has the attention of this right wing Gen X-er.
I am hoping Sen O will get the Dems' ticket because, we will then be able to debate issues with those of you on the left in a more civil manner. If HRC gets the Dems' ticket for '08, I'm afraid extreme partisans on the left and right will have a field day and unfortunately, the nation will have to suffer. I like Sen O, I think he is a decent man. I would not mind him being the Commander in Chief (unlike HRC). I would love to see him discuss and debate the issues of the day. It would be excellent for America for the level of discourse to be elevated.
Dr R, I cannot believe I am agreeing with you on something. Keep the spirit of debate and discussion alive! I will always root for Stepehen Moore over you, though, on Kudlow!
I think the whole point on Social Security is that it is NOT in crisis now, but a little fix now will help it NOT be in crisis in the future. Why do you have to wait for a crisis to fix things? Wouldn't it have been nice if a president had made small fixes BEFORE THE CRISES in oil independence, global warming, subprime loans, etc. Why do we address only things that are crises in this country. Isn't is good to try to avoid crises?? I agree with Obama, do something NOW.
Nowhere is John Edwards included in this discussion. As the first major Democratic candidate to propose a comprehensive health care plan, and as one running in a statistical tie in Iowa, I think he deserves consideration.
From what I understand of it, Edwards's plan also includes a mandate but with better support. He is the most progressive of the major candidates and has pointed out problems in Hillary's evasiveness and her connections to lobbyists -- what HRC calls "mudslinging" -- better than anyone.
I would be interested to read what Prof. Reich thinks of Edwards's plan, which seems to be a favorite of Krugman. Thanks, Prof. Reich, for your thoughtful commentary.
Josh. Being of your ilk, I could not agree with you more.
My pet rock has more experience then HRC. Why would anyone take "That woman, Mrs Clinton" seriously? Can someone answer this question?
Mr. Reich,
Are you suggesting a commensurate benefits increase for those who will pay more if we raise the social security cap to $115,000? Why not be honest and just say that we will confiscate more from the productive and successful in our society and redistribute it to buy votes for Democrats. Why do Socialists never want to be known as Socialists and instead utilize the breadth of the English language to hide their real agendas? Do you think people are that stupid? Ask me for a check and I might say yes. Take my hard earned income against my consent and guess what I'll say?
Dr. Reich;
While I rarely agree with your points of view completely, I have always enjoyed your points of view and perspective. In a populus as diverse as ours it is easy lose track of how all sides of a political debate/idelogy view a subject. And although I do not trust Senator Clinton because I can not get a firm grasp of what she stands for I do believe that she does want to contribute to our society and our people. It is true that she like all peoples politicians and laypersons alike are not entirely altruistic and desire and strive towards selfengrandisement; that being said she and congressman Obama are good people, I believe however misguided or sophomoric their ideals may be.
Cordially,
WGJ
Finally some rationale thinking. Hillary and her nasty campaign crew are just getting desperate as people finally realize the truth about her: she ain't no Bill.
Moreover, she is a calculating, poll-driven political animal who doesn't deserve the prize, has no ability to heal the wounds of this country and bring it together at a time of great need, and has nothing new to offer.
Besides just how long do you think it will take before Bill's sex addiction rears its ugly head (no pun intended) and plunges the country into yet another unneeded diversion.
It's time for a change and Obama is the one.
I think you are overstating the depth of Hillary's criticism of Obama. She's not really 'stooping low'. She just taking some swipes.
Now, if you want to talk about stooping check out the Romney vs Rudy slagg-off.
Why do you libs always trot out Bill Gates to rationalize tax increases?
Bill Gates is in a league of folks representing 1/300,000,000th of the U.S. population, i.e., a league of his own.
Dr. Reich;
While I rarely agree with your points of view, completely I have always enjoyed your points of view and insight. In a populus as diverse as ours it is easy lose track of how all sides of a political debate/idelogy view a subject. And although I do not trust Senator Clinton because I can not get a firm grasp of what she stands for I do believe that she does want to contribute to our society and our people. It is true that she like all peoples politicians and laypersons alike are not entirely altruistic and desire and strive towards selfengrandisement; that being said she and congressman Obama are good people, I believe however misguided or sophomoric their ideals may be.
Cordially,
WGJ
When you say that Obama is courageous, I assume you're saying so in relation to Hillary. Because I can't think of a single example--and you don't provide one. In fact, you mention social security where he has cravenly towed the CW line.
And to the commenter that called George Soros a 'kingmaker:' you've got to be kidding.
i think that if Obama and Edwards ran together they would be unbeatable.
Mr. Reich,
Are you suggesting a commensurate benefits increase for those who will pay more if we raise the social security cap to $115,000? Why not be honest and just say that we will confiscate more from the productive and successful in our society and redistribute it to buy votes for Democrats. Why do Socialists never want to be known as Socialists and instead utilize the breadth of the English language to hide their real agendas? Do you think people are that stupid? Ask me for a check and I might say yes. Take my hard earned income against my consent and guess what I'll say?
I honestly think that Bill Clinton can say "I did not have sex with that woman, Hillary Clinton" and thus for once in his life he would be honest. So why would we trust HRC when Bill does not respect her after all the things he has done to her and she ate the "excrement sandwich" so he could remain in the WH. What a evil and knieving person she is!!!!
I agree with everything you've said Mr. Reich and the polls agree as well. Senator Barack Obama has shown integrity from the beginning of his career, that's why so many follow him. His leadership is unprecedented since JFK and MLK. The attacks from Clinton are unwarranted and baseless.
Perhaps she should consult with someone other than her advisor, Mark Penn who also advised Blackwater in their recent Senate investigation.
Linda
Carlsbad CA -
You had it right! Mr. Reich, you should be ashamed of yourself for demoguaging about social security. As a labor secretary, you should know, I suppose, that people pay payroll tax (Social security, medicare..) tax on wages only. As Mr. Reich may know, Bill Gates's income mainly come from his Microsoft stock holding. Will he advise Obama to start taxing SS on investment income?
You can ss tax regressive. Do you forget other component of income tax is progressive? So now you want to tax SS progressively? Tell this to the "rich" professional in New York, CT, and New Jersey who pay a lot of local tax and earn just about 100 to 150 K. They wait for the whole year to come to an end so they can see a pay check without a ss deduction. You want to take this joy away?
At the risk of picking nits, RR says "Bill Gates satisfies his yearly Social Security obligations a few minutes past midnight on January 1 every year." I don't know how that could be true. He makes a million in salary from Microsoft, which would suggest early february would be the date.
He makes a lot from dividends, and probably other sources of investment income, but if it's not wages, isn't it not covered by social security.
Yes, it's off the main point of Robert trying to tell Hillary to calm down, but isn't it odd that the ex secretary of labor would just say things as facts which aren't true? Oh wait. I forgot...
Privatize Social Security now!
Bill Gate's salary and his net worth are not the same.He does not fulfill his (ponzi scheme) obligation within seconds after midnight.
Simple Future value of money calculation: take 14% of your anuual salary, twice weekly (i.e. $300. Put that amount into a S&P index fund (ie 10%) over 40 years. Solve for FV: $3.8 million. You money. I can contribute a lot more to charity with this amount and take care of my brother, grandma, aunt, etc. Much better than $3,000/month 40 years from now.
First, HRC attacked O's plan for keep Social Security solvent.
She attacked it because Obama was relying on Republican talking points to support his position. I would have been more disappointed had she not said anything.
I’m equally concerned about her attack on his health care plan.
Again, his plan falls short: Obama says he has a plan for universal health care yet doesn’t mandate insurance for adults.
Hillary's plan is very similar to Edwards' and Obama's plan is weaker than both.
Personally, I'm not big on Hillary Clinton, but I'm less big on Barack Obama.
He engaged in anti-gay dog whistle politics in South Carolina (Donnie Mcclurkin), and he seems to value "civility" above all else.
Politics exists because people have different opinions on how to make our nation, and our world a better place, and Obama seems to spend his time pandering to the "very serious people" inside the beltway, who want ensure that nothing interferes with their pleasant chats at Sally Quinn's parties.
Mr. Riech,
Why don't you consult the brillance of Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Reid. They have done extremely well since the Democrats have taken control of Congress (The opposite of PROgress is CONgress, how ironic). Nevermind they are too busy trying to de-fund a war we are winning.. Ah bring back that little conflict in SE Asia!
Hildabeast is nothing more than an over eager opportunist with no morals no convictions and a total lack of honesty. As much as I loath her I have to be honest. I would rather see her get creamed by any Republican then have Obama or the Breck Girl win the nomination.
The SS program was originally conceived as an old age insurance/pension program; hence the decision was made to give it the form of a pension fund with a limited benefit and a maximum yearly contribution. Otherwise it would become just a welfare program with less political support which would become endangered by Republican attacks. Since it is now so entrenched that may no longer be the case. The main defect in SS was allowing the government to fund itself by stuffing IOUS in this “Trust Fund”. Where is this “Trust Fund”? It does not exist. Essentially our elected representatives they took the money raised for the stated purpose of paying SS benefits and spent it on various projects to benefit their friends and political supporters.
Now we expect the future generation to plunge their wealth into this money pit, out of which they can expect to get back pennies on the dollar at some distant time in the future. Our leaders have also decided it wise to pass off tens of trillions of the national debt onto this same generation. Eventually, when the magnitude of this inter-generational transfer of wealth sinks into the younger generation may not decide to continue paying for this ill conceived program.
HRC enabled a rapist for political expediency. She saw that the victims were attacked and used political power to its full extent to silence her enemies - i.e. those who would tell the truth about the Clintons. We individuals are tools to be manipulated so that she can achieve what she thinks she deserves - the position of the most powerful person in the world.
If voters fall for her "presentation" we will all pay big time.
Hey Anonymous,
...Hillary will gut Obama like a fish and he will do the same to the author if he writes more articles like this.....spoken like a true Clintonian facist. You basically confirm the fact that anyone who criticizes her majesty will get run over. Hillary Clinton is far from courageous...I guess your idea of courageous is staying quiet on a cheating husband. What low goals we set for ourselves, don't we. Hillary will not get elected, because the country is not, nor ever will ready for a socialist leader
Mr. Reich,
As a trustee of SS ten years ago, what recommendations did you make to keep SS solvent? And if they were implemented, why have they not worked?
You state O wants to raise SS's cap, then as if to drive the point home, site Bill Gates' SS is paid in just a few minutes, and then you refute yourself saying it only needs to be raised by $17,000. #1, why push class warfare, when within your own assessment you debase it? #2, how will increasing the cap bring additional funds into SS? If you recall, the only thing in the SS trust fund are 4 trillion dollars worth of the governments IOU's, raising the SS cap will only allow them to spend the additional capital the trust fund generates, forcing further debt even faster.
As far as to the question of health care, if the government can't be trusted to keep SS solvent, why, in heaven's name, would you trust them to look after your health. But then I'm sure you wouldn't, as you're rich enough to by-pass (class warfare barb), what would be forced on the rest of us not within your income: Federal Mandated Health Care.
Good post. This is the nagging concern I have about HRC. I need a candidate to be FOR something and have a plan to achieve it. The constant generalities, deciding to defer to more discussion, crafting comments for the polls ... ugh. I need for the Republicans to lose, but I also want what comes next to be really better.
Just wondering how Social Security cannot be in bad shape. There is no trust fund. If that had been invested instead of robbed, we would not have problems today.
Because Bill gates pays his Soc Sec Obligation off quickly does not mean that somebdoy making 115,000 has to pay more.
That does not penalize Gates, but instead hurts one income families living in expensive areas.
How about starting at the top first. Say 1,000,000 or more.
Just charge them an exta 100,000
Riddle me this Batman.... We do these feminist women support Bill Clinton? He is a pervert and rapist, yet they are silent....Good job NOW. Keep up the good work!
As a conservative, I disagree with you and the Democratic candidates on almost every issue. However, Mr. Reich, given the history of the treatment of anyone with the audacity to criticize either of the Clinton's, I applaud your obvious courage and suggest you start looking over your shoulder. You are sure to be severely punished for this most egregious act. Bill and HRC are not known for their ability to take criticism without retaliating.
Not_a_Hillary_Fan said... "why should we trust" HRC? Question to you is why should we trust any republican when all their reps: craig, lott, hastert, foley, etc. say "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT MAN".
You also forgot to mention that HRC is one of the chief proponents for outsourcing. In fact, she and Bill made their fortune by providing H1-B guest workers for Amercian high tech companies - basically tax payer subsidized insanity that has cost 8 million American's their jobs! SHe is also one of Wall Streets biggest outsourcing cheerleaders, a little something that has cost us millions of other jobs. We are entering a recession. Jobs are THE issue. I'm a Democrat and I cannot vopte for Clinton. I don't know of ONE Democrat who will.
Excellent points, all of them!
I think it takes considerable gall on the part of Hillary to tag Obama for not really offering universal health care when she thinks that we can have it by fiat. If we're not going to fund universal health care with tax dollars, then it really just comes back to making it universally affordable -- which Obama's plan focuses on.
As a thirtysomething I greatly appreciate Obama's attempt to shore up Social Security. I resent someone like Paul Krugman telling me it's not a problem because it won't run out of money completely for another 30 years -- right about the time I'll be retiring!
Hillary's "kindergate" accusations will just backfire.
Nice try Mr. Reich but with old friends like you who needs enemies. Obama and Edwards can attack Clinton and that's okay with you? In fact you attack her for saying what she believes to be true and she backs up what she says. Obama's health plan does not cover everyone. He can't legitmately offer that it does. At least Clinton's goal is to cover everyone. Obama's lack of mandate is more political soft ball. He mandates health insurance for children, but not their parents the very ones who are responsible for the care and feeding of said children tell me the logic in that? How socially and ethically conscious is that?
The Social Security crisis is not a crisis as Obama conjures. It's fixable in a bipartisan way as Clinton proposes. She certainly isn't driving a faux crisis to stimulate a "worry" vote from senior citizens.
Obama doesn't tell it like it is, he calculates the politics throws out attacks, calls someone disingenuous and that's okay with you and all the starry eyed hypocrites?
Obama does lack the courage to fight the fight like a Democrat. He's wants the Democrats to believe he's an outsider. He's no outsider. He's not even an agent of change, he throws the punches, in fact he had to throw the first punch because he was losing the battle. He's the mainstream media's new pop star and he gets away with attacking his opponents because of it. He whines and he's right. She whines and we know what John McCain thinks of her.
Obama's record lacks conviction. The Move ON .org resolution proves that making a political statement on behalf of his party was beneath him. If he is so sure that the Kyle-Lieberman resolution would give Bush the ability to start another DUMB WAR he should have committed to be there to vote against it. He's supposed to be the anti-war superstar. He wouldn't commit to troops out of Iraq by 2013 but miraculously he's talking 16 months now. I think one calls that pandering to the extremes. He's such a truth teller.
He's running as a Democrat, but he's selling himself as a star more than his stands up for the party or its principles. At least Clinton shows up for the vote. No one has to agree with her, but she at least had the courage to produce a record.
Looking for a response:
Mr. Reich,
As a trustee of SS ten years ago, what recommendations did you make to keep SS solvent? And if they were implemented, why have they not worked?
You state O wants to raise SS's cap, then as if to drive the point home, site Bill Gates' SS is paid in just a few minutes, and then you refute yourself saying it only needs to be raised by $17,000. #1, why push class warfare, when within your own assessment you debase it? #2, how will increasing the cap bring additional funds into SS? If you recall, the only thing in the SS trust fund are 4 trillion dollars worth of the governments IOU's, raising the SS cap will only allow them to spend the additional capital the trust fund generates, forcing further debt even faster.
As far as to the question of health care, if the government can't be trusted to keep SS solvent, why, in heaven's name, would you trust them to look after your health. But then I'm sure you wouldn't, as you're rich enough to by-pass (class warfare barb), what would be forced on the rest of us not within your income: Federal Mandated Health Care.
Social Security is sold to the public as a retirement program (at least in part) where what you get out is tied to what you have paid in. Increasing contributions without increasing benefits would be contrary to this ideal. If you go this far, why not tax all income and also give benefits to those whom have never paid into the program? Why not call it what it is? Wealth redistribution.
Re your intended quip that "That cap is now close to $98,000 (it’s indexed), and the result is highly regressive. (Bill Gates satisfies his yearly Social Security obligations a few minutes past midnight on January 1 every year.)"
Presumably you know, even if some of your readers do not, that Mr. Gates' dividend, capital gain, and stock option income is *not* subject to the Social Security payroll tax (a hint is contained in that word "payroll").
And in fact, back when he was taking a salary it was roughly $600,000 per year (his bonus finally brought that over $1 million in 2004.)
So he covered his $100,000 payroll tax threshold sometime in late February.
As quips go, that Gates crack was misleading on many levels.
Tom Maguire
I love how you Libs have to change the subject. How can anyone trust a woman who defends a man that is a womanizer, has no respect for women, a liar, and only cares about himself. It was disgusting that President Clinton used his power and position to take advantage of a young woman. That is the point.... She has no moral compass! Her opinion changes every 2.3 seconds.
"Obama wants to do it by lifting the cap on the percent of income subject to Social Security payroll taxes, which strikes me as sensible."
Strikes me as larceny.
Conor Ryan said...
OK, the son is not guilty of the father's sins does not apply to spouses. now, think of HRC schmoozing with Ruper Murdoch, and think of the Presidential pardon given to the likes of Marc Rich by her husband. Smells like the plutocratic stench of stealth Republicanism to me."
...how great is that. Whenever a democrat is accused of plutocratic stench, it turns out that they're not democrats after all. They're just stealth republicans. Anyone else wonder where the idiots reside?
I'm a middle-aged Christian white male Republican (FYI). Obama is clearly the more likeable of the two. And that usually means the stronger candidate. I'll probably vote for any GOP candidate (except Guiliani), but I have heard a significant number of Republicans voice a wilingness to vote for Obama. I think Obama has a better chance of winning votes from Republicans & independents. That's not some kind of reverse psychology I'm employing ("please nominate Obama since he'll be easier to defeat"). It's just my honest opinion that Obama's the stronger candidate. His willingness to address issues like social security is admirable, even if I worry about his leftward bent.
Only a Berkley Democrat would even suggest that Social Security is not in trouble because Medicare is in worse shape. Comparing two failing wealth redistribution programs, then declaring one is succeeding because it is not going broke as fast as the other is not my idea of reality.
You said: "(I was a trustee of the Social Security Trust Fund ten years ago, and I can vouch for this)."
As a trustee, why didn't you do soemthing about it then?
Mr. Reich,
I will be happy when the 1960's generation fades away, so that my generation can get the counrty back on "Freedom Track" and not the "Socialism Track".
Thinking voters are few and far between. How else do you explain eight years of Bill Clinton-Rodham?
If Hillary Rodham wins, it will be because many of those same 'geniuses' want her Mister back in the White House again.
Hillary's candidacy, much to her and other prominent feminists' chagrines, was never about Hillary. It's all about her slick Willy -- now as then.
Listen, I can already hear it: "I did not have Sox with that cat..."
No to Rudy!: I am one of the Republicans you were referring to. I cannot in good conscience vote for an empty suite. I can feel in my bones that the Republicans will be out. I intend to vote for someone with a positive view of our future. I think the Clintons & Bushes need to pack and go away. This country has way to divisive for far too long. I will vote for Obama in the primaries.
Dittos.... Time for the 60's hippy generation to depart the scene.
social security is a rip off! based on the government's calculator this tax will cost me 350,000 dollars (combined employee and employer) but only pay me about 200,000 dollars assuming my income continues to grow, i retire at 62 and actually manage to live until 74.
when the time value of money is taken into consideration the financial picture darkens even more. i'm paying in 1982, 1990, 2000, 2010, 2025 dollars and being repaid in 2030, 2038 dollars.
i would need to live 21 years past retirement age just to receive the amount i paid into the system. if a modest 5 percent rate of return were added to the amount i paid in taxes i would need to live more than 300 years to receive my investment.
any questions why people want private savings accounts. get our thieving, lying, mismanaging uncle off our chests and outta our wallets!
Anonymous -
Well done! Your attention to detail is to be commended, but your interpretation of grammatical humor is lacking. Mr. Reich's latest blog was interesting and entertaining. He has decided to distance himself from the cancer.
I've had time to view your numerous postings. Are you familiar with the word "diatribe"?
Sadly Mr. Reich you seem to not be seeing the forest for the trees...
Both mainstream parties are a disaster for the country at this point. There is very little, if any, differentiation between the two in action or in content or conduct.
I won't go into my thoughts on Miss Clinton, whom I would never vote for for a variety of reasons, but I would argue if anyone was truly serious about making a change in the country they would be looking to start or foster a third party that is free of the absolutely corrupt environment inside the beltway.
Best thing to do is privatize SS and let us make some real money for retirement. Once again thanx to FDR, LBJ, and WJC for helping us...Not! Please go away, afed away with the rest of the socialist Hippies from the 1960's
This was the best assessment I've seen of Hillary's penchant for the mindless attacks that have worked so well on the other side of the aisle.
I personally like Fred Thompson. He has put out a number of policy plans recently that have been well received by those such as the Washington Post.
His approach is that those are his positions and plans for solving our problems and if we don't agree we can vote for someone else. None of this - "whatever you want me to say I'll say" - like you get from HRC.
On his website, Senator Thompson states, “the first responsibility of government is to protect the American people, the homeland, and our way of life.”
He also knows that with freedom comes responsibility. He believes that cutting spending and cutting taxes can go hand in hand with each other. “We need lower taxes, and we need to let taxpayers keep more of their hard-earned dollars—they know best where and how to spend them. And we need to make the system simpler and fairer for all”.
One of the keys is whether, as a nation, we want the government to be responsible for us or do we
take responsibility for our lives, as our parents and grandparents, etc. did.
It never ceases to amaze me that the Clinton political machine doesn't play nice with the competing candidates. What is the surprize here? No one should be fooled or caught unaware. History remains history, inspite of the many Clinton attempts to re write it to their own advantages. More than a few people remember the facts as they happened during previous election cycles. Regardless of the obvious, I applaude your courage to address one of the seedy issues of the political mafias at work here.
I, personally, am fed up with partisan politics regardless from who's camp it comes; the central issue is being obfuscated with all the other dick-bird issues that are of lesser importance but not paramount to the survival issue. We are a nation at war, not with another government, but with a radical religion that is committed to dominate the world. Take a close of personal relationships among all the candidates and on both sides of the isles in Congress as well as the Executive Office - there are many, including the Clinton's, on the payrolls of Muslim government owned businesses. Our nation is being torn apart by our own elected and appointed leaders in their quest for political power and greed and to Hell with Islamic threats abroad and on our own soil. The people in our nation are being systematically lied to or miss-led because of the conflicts of interests within the members of our government and executives of large corporations. It is fast approaching the point of no return where we will end up losing not only the current Holy War but our freedoms and way of life.
Because you are a part of academia and have a broad communication canvas, I would recommend you address some of these more relevant threats to this nation's survival so that we can continue being surprized by the tactics of political campaigners now and in the future.
This was the best assessment I've seen of Hillary's penchant for the mindless attacks that have worked so well on the other side of the aisle.
"That cap is now close to $98,000 (it's indexed), and the result is highly regressive."
Surely you know that Social Security as a program (and it is a program, not just a tax), is not regressive but in fact highly progressive.
A taxpayer who pays twice as much tax over her working career receives far less than twice as much in benefits. That is unarguably the progressive redistribution of income.
And that's before the federal income taxation of Social Security benefits, which is itself radically progressive. So in fact Social Security is "double-progressive" (or "progressive-squared").
So ask I again -- why are you misrepresenting the issue?
Well said.
Fred Thompson is an idiot....
Just in the next 5 or 6 years, Post-World War II baby boomers entering the Social Security rolls will exceed the total number becoming eligible for benefits for the past several decades. This is based on the fact that the 76 million "baby boomers" have already started retiring and there are 33.9 million retired and dependents already on the rolls today. Alternatively, 76 million is about 25% of America's total population today. This is worth talking about. And I think O is on target to inspire some constructive discussion.
Forget about studies for now. Go back to Senator Monyihan's "commission" and dust off the great ideas in there. Senator Moynihan favored accounts that would be layered on top of Social Security, paid for by taxes on top of those directed into Social Security, to supplement the government benefit payment.
Thanks, Robert, for leaning in on HRC and speaking truth about O.
There is a Teddy Roosevelt in the bunch. Dem's or Rep's.
Today's bunch are losers are making America a losing country.
I would barely vote any of them dog catcher, but now we have to choose them as a President to our country.
sob.
HRC is the Manchurian Candidatess.
By the way, she'd be the first wife of a president to herself become president. That doesn't seem kosher, much less constitutional.
The problem with computers is, it requires no proofreading.
That should say, there is NOT a Teddy Roosevelt in the bunch.
Sorry about the crap post.
Mohammed Goldberg:
Don't give HRC that much credit...She is not that smart
Everyone who has posted here needs to get a life.
Not_a_Hillary_Fan said... Bill did this and Bill did that. FYI, you brought sex into this. Tell Mrs. vitter to divorce her hubby, then tell Mrs. craig to divorce hers and then tell all the stepford wives of your reps who DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT MAN, to divorce their husbands, and while you are at it, watch your man to make sure he does not have sex with that man. You know there's something about those Gay Old Perverts.
I agree entirely. Mrs. Clinton's comment against raising the Social Security cap and in favor of naming "a commission" brought a loud yell of outrage from me. I think I yelled something about her being a "George Bush Democrat".
PS -- There is a typo in your text: SHUS BE $150,000 STED OF $150,00.
HRC isn't courageous. Courage involves taking a chance or risk. HRD merely sets goals and goes after them while attempting to minimze all risk and without establishing any actual position. She is actually just stubborn, determined and single-minded. In other words, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." I think an earlier Bill said that. Let's not give her undue credit.
(Bill Gates satisfies his yearly Social Security obligations a few minutes past midnight on January 1 every year.)
I think the basic assumption behind this comment is scary. Exactly how long into the year should one have to work before they've paid off their SS Tax debts for the year?
It was once stated that if a citizen ever paid more than 2% of their income in taxes, another violent revolution should occur.
I concur.
I am a lifelong Republican, first as the child of Republicans and then a self-associated one . . . and I am strongly considering voting for Obama.
I don't agree with all his positions, but I'm tired of trying to win, as if somehow other Americans are my enemies who I need to beat. Not everyone who disagrees with me does so because they're evil . . . yet that's what I hear so many Democrat and Republicans saying about their opponents. There's no good faith. There's no attempt to separate "those who disagree with me, but mean well, and I can see where they're coming from" from "those who are selfish liars".
Except with Obama. Having read his book, and listened to him talk, he seems like he's honestly willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, but can also tell a liar and a crook from an honest, well-meaning person with a different point of view.
So even though I disagree with some of his policies, I'd rather have him as President than someone who's dishonest but can help "my side" "win".
Hillary supporters? Listen to what her critics are saying about her character. The Bush/Cheney supporters never listened to what was said about Bush and Cheney's character . . . don't make the same mistake.
Robert, I am an actuary - a pension actuary (blogging as papau on DU)- I'm trained and experience just like the folks that fed you the numbers when you were a Trustee. Apparently you never had informal conversations with those actuaries as to what the numbers really mean. Lets take care of Health first (knowing the con job that is assuming a growth in the health sector of 10% while the economy is grown at 2% and then saying the health sector is bigger than the economy in 50 years) - health does need cost control and investment. I have also reviewed O and HRC on this - and you are wrong, in my opinion, as HRC has the better cost control plan. The Medicare Like option that Edwards invented is in both because it will work - and that is the major point with the differences in the rest rather minor points - but Hillary covers more people by definition. Indeed your Mass Plan stats are off - that mandate has been more successful than anyone anticipated and will increase the Mass Budget by more than was estimated. Mandates work beter than no mandates. As to new money as subsidy and for technology- funny how Hillary's plan is both more detailed and more expensive yet you claim O is spending more (perhaps you're pushing "upfront O versus backend spending" but that does not work as a justification for your statement - check the design of the Mass plan and its subsidies as that is the situation for both O and HRC)- indeed you need to check your logic on this point.
As to Social Security, the 3rd projection (remember when you were Trustee and we showed you 3 very conservative projections, with different levels of conservatism? Do you recall the fact that over the years it is the least conservative that was always closest to what eventually happened - and that 3rd projection always was too conservative - well, the 3rd projection shows no problem over 75 years - no problem ever. So O has it wrong - no "fix" is needed. But we agree that as a matter of progressive fairness, the flat tax on wages that is the payroll tax should be extended - only I want to extended it to all income - albeit I'll be lucky to just see it apply to all wages. The unneeded extra money could then be used to reduce the payroll tax rate on the employee side by 1.5% or so - about 25% less coming from the middle-class. Now that is a tax cut! :-) But a point to O for saying increase the wage base - and take a point from HRC for not "keeping it on the table" - this appears to be an area we could work our way to an agreement, Robert.
As an aside - Bush tries to make already overly conservative projectens look worse so as to show more of a problem by dropping the out year GDP growth assumption from Clinton's 1.7% to 1.6%.
As to a FUL benefit age increase (keeping age 62 as the early age)beginning in 2030 and phased in over 36 months going from Reagan's 67 to a new age 70, that actually is wise as mortality improvements may well exceed those projected by Soc Sec which are based on the 90's - improvements may be speeding up. If the improvements in mortality do not happen we can always in 2030 cancel the age increases. HRC and O do not push this - but you made the idea sound like a bad idea - and it may not be.
But let's be clear - there is no issue re Social Security - therefore there is no "avoiding the issue", and HRC is not being "irresponsible". The commission I hopwe will propose the age increase over 36 years with no cap and and a tax rate reduction - I can dream, can't I? :-)
When O's team is dropping hints of Bill's lady problem affecting Hillary because she handled the situation in a way that did not reflect good character, I would be surprised if she did not respond by (asked she intended to raise questions about O’s character) saying "It's beginning to look a lot like that."
Sorry Robert - O and HRC are both great candiates - but it is you that needed a fact check correction- not Hillary.
Attention "anonymous" #49 Try contributing with you silence. Have you any useful opinion related to this topic?
I think it is pretty clear - Hillary is taking a page from Rove - Inversion. Attack the opponent's greatest strength. John Kerry the war hero is actually a coward and traitor. The Democrats actually rushed the Iraq War. C'mon, we've all seen this a hundred times now. What don't you get? And it is especially a slam dunk when your opponent's greatest strength is your greatest weakness - that's why 'the big lie' about Kerry was so effective coming from a bunch of chickenhawks. Those charges, those 'big lies', insidious as they are, level the perceptive playing field. They stifle the opponent - you are aghast! You said you "just don't get it." But that's the point! It is painful for those of us who adhere to the rules of reason. But those rules, as the saying goes, are no longer operative. Hillary is just as 'pragmatic' as ever. Yep, I'm saddened too. Looks like Rove's little bag of tricks is becoming institutional knowledge. God help us all.
Raising the cap does not help if you raise the payout, which is what Social Security should be. SS is supposedly to be a retirement savings for working Americans. You put one dollar in you get one dollar out. If the gov't raises the cap and not the payout they should label this as income tax increase.
The post by anonymous "Everyone who has posted here needs to get a life." for having posted a comment.
Do these fools not really see the irony of what they have just done by posting a comment?
Obama is as much middle of the road as HRC is. Obama supporters, Rich, Reich, start to lose their critical edge.
If you don't like HRC, how can you like Obama? They are almost identical (and that's our problem in 2008).
Basically reveals in the first couple paragraphs exactly how democrats wind up over taxing the people in the middle.
He suggests raising the limit from 98K to 115K for the social security exemption based on say Bill covers his obligation to social security a few seconds after midnight.
Exactly how does that change by raising the exemption from 98K to 115K?
This is the problem with democracts, they point at the rich and hit the guys in the middle. And its intentional, if they ever hit the rich they wouldn't have something to point at...
This man, Robert Reich, had a fall-out with the Clintons with Welfare reform. He has not been the same ever since. He has lost his mind!
Bill Gates pays a large chunk of the social security of all his employees...the employers half. But how does raising Bill Gates personal bill for Soc Sec from 98000to 115000 provide a"progressive solution"? By adding a few more minutes until Gates has paid the new limit? Mr Reich picked the example of Gates to illustrate how unprogressive the system is, then logically he should stick with Gates to illustrate his progressive solution. But if he did, then we would see that he is supporting the old political gambit of saying "tax the rich" but really means taxing the middle class and small business folks.
If its not universal, "O" should not say it is.
How low is this:
Obama's Idea of an 'Ethical' Campaign'
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/11/obamas_idea_of_an_ethical_camp.html
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/641088,sweet110708A.article
What's the surprize here? PERSONAL INTEGRITY and the CLINTONS are two mutually exclusive terms. I can't wait to see just how deep in the ditch Hillary is willing to go once she is annointed. At least you are willing to call a spade "a spade". She is a proven liar and I hope a plurality of American voters have a big problem with that. Republican, democrat, or otherwise, we need to get serious about the leadership we elect to steer the ship. Hillary isn't leadership, she is sinkingship and is guaranteed to split political ideology even further. It isn't just the "right" that has indigestion over a Hillary prospect. She wants to hang her hat on the women vote. I don't think they are that stupid in a collective sense. Hillary thinks she 'walks the walk'? What walk is that? She really has no record of achievement. None. She does However, have a record of deceit and obfuscation. I guess it's hard to run on that record.
I know that children get very defensive when they have people who don't support them. I see the same thing happening here. Its a shame to see this woman bring herself down because many other women look up to her and now they will all feel totally let down. That is the biggest shame. On the other hand those who have worked hard and studied Barack and have stayed supportive through good times and bad will finally have their day.
Reich praises the "character and courage" of Obama??
Here's the facts - John Edwards has been doing the heavy lifting with character and courage while the media has been promoting Obama.
The most recent example was Edwards courageous speech to the DNC last Friday!
Unfortunately, Obama continues lying about his health care plan covering everyone. This is a lie!
You lack credibility the instant you suggest that the Social Security isn't in bad shape. It's a con job to most everybody contributing into it. Your contributions and matching employer contributions will go much farther in a private account with someone like Fidelity, or Etrade where it grows and goes to yourself (like an SEP-IRA), or to your survivors. SS only benefits those that contribute lightly and/or deadbeats. It's basically become welfare.
Obama is Repub-lite which fits in well with the ideology of Reich and other Centrists.
If Obama were NOT in the senate - it's doubtful he would have supported Condi Rice's confirmation, or the Oman and Peru free trade agreements, or supported continuing funding a war he supposedly opposed.
And he certainly wouldn't have endorsed pro-war Joe Lieberman and told CT voters to have the "good sense" to return him to the Senate.
But Sen. Obama did.
You want to talk regressive? What do you think about the people paying more into social security but getting back less as a percentage? Raise the cap but are you going to raise the payouts also? No, of course not. SS is simply another welfare tax.
Social Security was solvent until LBJ raided it in the '60, and never paid it back!
The Clintons have a very shady political past and always seem to somehow escape prosecution for their crimes. Consider that over 20 associates of the Clinton political circle have died mysteriously .. most by gunshot and many by auto "accidents." One repoetedly was a "suicide" after being shot in the back of the head, execution style. Take note of this Mr. Reich .. watch your back now that you have exposed Hillary for what she is.
Everyone knows the only reason they remain married is so one can not be forced to testify against the other for their shadowy dealings.
Conor said "Presidential pardon given to the likes of Marc Rich, Smells like the plutocratic stench of stealth Republicanism to me. "
Mr Ryan, I do not know one Pubbie that wasn't livid about that pardon.
I don't see what a Republican has to do with that criminal pardon.
No one should be surprised by Hillary
displaying a mean streak. Just ask
Bill...off the record. Her true and
unapealing character is bound to come
through between now and next fall.
By her comments to Katie Couric, her
elusiveness and her evasion of tough
questions she comes across the way
she really is..a arogant and pompous
elitist.
The claim that Social Security is regressive is false - it is progressive albeit not directly so like the income tax. Given that Mr. Reich is a knowledgeable economist, the only reasonable conclusion is that it is also a lie. Leftists just can't seem to help it, to their detriment.
Recipients get, in nominal terms, payouts proportional to their SS taxes paid (more or less, current recipients are probably getting more as their SS tax rates were lower than today's which were, supposedly, saving Social Security). Taxes are capped, but so are payouts.
The reason the system is indirectly progressive is that most (IIRC 85%) of SS income today is considered taxable income. Consequently wealthier recipients, who'll have more retirement income, will have their SS payouts reduced more making the system overall progressive.
Look who is talking...GW Bush is a bigger snob then HRC. HRC cares about the people and Bush only cares about the oil industry
How can Bill Gates meet the FICA contribution max if he isn't drawing a salary. Coreect me if I'm wrong, but one does not pay FICA in the capital gains derived from appreciated options. Not that Gates doesn't pay a hefty piece of change in total taxes, but as previous poster have mentioned, the 'straw man' of the ultral-wealthy not doing their "fair" share ig getting a bit worn out.
Though I disagree with you on about everything, I am impressed with your honesty regarding this issue. Great article!
Don't any of you clowns blogging have a real job!
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
Hmmm, maybe it wasn't all GW's fault...
I always thought of you as a pinhead. With this hit piece, I realize I was correct in that conclusion. What's a matter, did the Clintons strike you from their social registry?
Rush is right Mr. ReiccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccH!
RR I am always amused at yours and your democratic cronies inability to relate to a market initiative to abate the increased cost of health care and further is availability to those US citizens who want such coverage. Just one example: Currently the health care industry is burdened with the government's quasi-subsidy of employer provided group health care and the fallacy of preventative care both distorting effective consumer activities of making health-care decision on need and cost. Well enough said... Those of interested should re-read Clinton's masterpiece of anti-market initiatives - "The President's Health Security Plan" published 9/7/93.
Bobby, too bad the book thing didn't work. But maybe a couple of people will believe this ridiculous hit piece anyway.
hey there, robert. i just want someone to know how much hillary clinton's healthcare plan pisses me off. basically she forces me to buy healthcare. okay, hillary, the reason i don't have healthcare in the first place is i don't have enough damned money to buy healthcare - AND i am not eligible for federal benefits. it just pisses the fuck out of me how any politician can demand of me money i just don't fucking have! sorry for the language - but this is the situation!
An interesting article Mr. Reich.
Clearly, the HRC camp, and the candidate herself, are woefully wrong about women, and others they may deem "in the bag", as block voters. The arrogance, the self indulgence, the "entitlement" assumption, and the mean spirited nature of the campaign are not lost on us. I heartily wish that your excellent evaluation of things that are really important would make it to the front page of the "rags". We need more than 3 - 5 minutes "bites" in inane excuses for "debates". Thank Heavens for Matt Drudge, and for your thoughtful reasoned discussion. A democratic woman voter
Hmm. I wonder if we had better candidates, what this discussion would be like? Hmm. Why don't we?
We know they are out there. Oh yeah I forgot - Hillary Clinton is entitled to the Whitehouse because of all the mean things her husband did or maybe some elderly member of Congress or Senate feels entitled after all the time they put in and after all if they lose they get to keep the campaign money for their retirement.
Is this any way to run a great country? What if everyone got involved in local politics and demanded only the best candidates and held the political parties to high standard. What if we put the country before partisianship? Oh well - I know that is crazy talk.
All is fair in love, war, and politics. But this series of slurs doesn't serve HRC well.
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN SINCE THIS CAMPAIGN STARTED."OBAMA & EDWARDS"BOTH HAVE MADE A PLATFORM OF NEGATIVE SLURS AGAINST"HRC" SINCE THE BEGINNING.NOW THAT HRC IS GIVING IT BACK ITS NOT FAIR PLAY??? WHERE WERE YOUR COMMENTS WHEN THEY STARTED THIS FLURRY.AFTER 9/11 ALL AMERICAINS WERE READY FOR A WAR IN IRAQ.IT CERTAINLY WASNT JUST HILARYS SINGLE VOTE THAT PUT US THERE.
Soylent Blue..This is from HRC's website. Her ability to speak without saying a word is amazing.
Thank you for visiting my website. Below is the statement I made on the Senate floor on October 10th to explain my decision and vote on the joint Congressional resolution on Iraq. I hope you will take the time to read it with as much care as I have given to making this difficult decision. I am deeply grateful to the thousands of New Yorkers who shared their views on this important issue, and will continue to do my very best in serving the interests of our state and nation.
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October 10, 2002
Floor Speech of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
on S.J. Res. 45, A Resolution to Authorize the Use of
United States Armed Forces Against Iraq
As Delivered
Today we are asked whether to give the President of the United States authority to use force in Iraq should diplomatic efforts fail to dismantle Saddam Hussein's chemical and biological weapons and his nuclear program.
I am honored to represent nearly 19 million New Yorkers, a thoughtful democracy of voices and opinions who make themselves heard on the great issues of our day especially this one. Many have contacted my office about this resolution, both in support of and in opposition to it, and I am grateful to all who have expressed an opinion.
I also greatly respect the differing opinions within this body. The debate they engender will aid our search for a wise, effective policy. Therefore, on no account should dissent be discouraged or disparaged. It is central to our freedom and to our progress, for on more than one occasion, history has proven our great dissenters to be right.
Now, I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians, killing over 20 thousand people. Unfortunately, during the 1980's, while he engaged in such horrific activity, he enjoyed the support of the American government, because he had oil and was seen as a counterweight to the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran.
In 1991, Saddam Hussein invaded and occupied Kuwait, losing the support of the United States. The first President Bush assembled a global coalition, including many Arab states, and threw Saddam out after forty-three days of bombing and a hundred hours of ground operations. The U.S.-led coalition then withdrew, leaving the Kurds and the Shiites, who had risen against Saddam Hussein at our urging, to Saddam's revenge.
As a condition for ending the conflict, the United Nations imposed a number of requirements on Iraq, among them disarmament of all weapons of mass destruction, stocks used to make such weapons, and laboratories necessary to do the work. Saddam Hussein agreed, and an inspection system was set up to ensure compliance. And though he repeatedly lied, delayed, and obstructed the inspections work, the inspectors found and destroyed far more weapons of mass destruction capability than were destroyed in the Gulf War, including thousands of chemical weapons, large volumes of chemical and biological stocks, a number of missiles and warheads, a major lab equipped to produce anthrax and other bio-weapons, as well as substantial nuclear facilities.
In 1998, Saddam Hussein pressured the United Nations to lift the sanctions by threatening to stop all cooperation with the inspectors. In an attempt to resolve the situation, the UN, unwisely in my view, agreed to put limits on inspections of designated "sovereign sites" including the so-called presidential palaces, which in reality were huge compounds well suited to hold weapons labs, stocks, and records which Saddam Hussein was required by UN resolution to turn over. When Saddam blocked the inspection process, the inspectors left. As a result, President Clinton, with the British and others, ordered an intensive four-day air assault, Operation Desert Fox, on known and suspected weapons of mass destruction sites and other military targets.
In 1998, the United States also changed its underlying policy toward Iraq from containment to regime change and began to examine options to effect such a change, including support for Iraqi opposition leaders within the country and abroad.
In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001.
It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.
Now this much is undisputed. The open questions are: what should we do about it? How, when, and with whom?
Some people favor attacking Saddam Hussein now, with any allies we can muster, in the belief that one more round of weapons inspections would not produce the required disarmament, and that deposing Saddam would be a positive good for the Iraqi people and would create the possibility of a secular democratic state in the Middle East, one which could perhaps move the entire region toward democratic reform.
This view has appeal to some, because it would assure disarmament; because it would right old wrongs after our abandonment of the Shiites and Kurds in 1991, and our support for Saddam Hussein in the 1980's when he was using chemical weapons and terrorizing his people; and because it would give the Iraqi people a chance to build a future in freedom.
However, this course is fraught with danger. We and our NATO allies did not depose Mr. Milosevic, who was responsible for more than a quarter of a million people being killed in the 1990s. Instead, by stopping his aggression in Bosnia and Kosovo, and keeping on the tough sanctions, we created the conditions in which his own people threw him out and led to his being in the dock being tried for war crimes as we speak.
If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us. In recent days, Russia has talked of an invasion of Georgia to attack Chechen rebels. India has mentioned the possibility of a pre-emptive strike on Pakistan. And what if China were to perceive a threat from Taiwan?
So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option.
Others argue that we should work through the United Nations and should only resort to force if and when the United Nations Security Council approves it. This too has great appeal for different reasons. The UN deserves our support. Whenever possible we should work through it and strengthen it, for it enables the world to share the risks and burdens of global security and when it acts, it confers a legitimacy that increases the likelihood of long-term success. The UN can help lead the world into a new era of global cooperation and the United States should support that goal.
But there are problems with this approach as well. The United Nations is an organization that is still growing and maturing. It often lacks the cohesion to enforce its own mandates. And when Security Council members use the veto, on occasion, for reasons of narrow-minded interests, it cannot act. In Kosovo, the Russians did not approve NATO military action because of political, ethnic, and religious ties to the Serbs. The United States therefore could not obtain a Security Council resolution in favor of the action necessary to stop the dislocation and ethnic cleansing of more than a million Kosovar Albanians. However, most of the world was with us because there was a genuine emergency with thousands dead and a million driven from their homes. As soon as the American-led conflict was over, Russia joined the peacekeeping effort that is still underway.
In the case of Iraq, recent comments indicate that one or two Security Council members might never approve force against Saddam Hussein until he has actually used chemical, biological, or God forbid, nuclear weapons.
So, Mr. President, the question is how do we do our best to both defuse the real threat that Saddam Hussein poses to his people, to the region, including Israel, to the United States, to the world, and at the same time, work to maximize our international support and strengthen the United Nations?
While there is no perfect approach to this thorny dilemma, and while people of good faith and high intelligence can reach diametrically opposed conclusions, I believe the best course is to go to the UN for a strong resolution that scraps the 1998 restrictions on inspections and calls for complete, unlimited inspections with cooperation expected and demanded from Iraq. I know that the Administration wants more, including an explicit authorization to use force, but we may not be able to secure that now, perhaps even later. But if we get a clear requirement for unfettered inspections, I believe the authority to use force to enforce that mandate is inherent in the original 1991 UN resolution, as President Clinton recognized when he launched Operation Desert Fox in 1998.
If we get the resolution that President Bush seeks, and if Saddam complies, disarmament can proceed and the threat can be eliminated. Regime change will, of course, take longer but we must still work for it, nurturing all reasonable forces of opposition.
If we get the resolution and Saddam does not comply, then we can attack him with far more support and legitimacy than we would have otherwise.
If we try and fail to get a resolution that simply, but forcefully, calls for Saddam's compliance with unlimited inspections, those who oppose even that will be in an indefensible position. And, we will still have more support and legitimacy than if we insist now on a resolution that includes authorizing military action and other requirements giving some nations superficially legitimate reasons to oppose any Security Council action. They will say we never wanted a resolution at all and that we only support the United Nations when it does exactly what we want.
I believe international support and legitimacy are crucial. After shots are fired and bombs are dropped, not all consequences are predictable. While the military outcome is not in doubt, should we put troops on the ground, there is still the matter of Saddam Hussein's biological and chemical weapons. Today he has maximum incentive not to use them or give them away. If he did either, the world would demand his immediate removal. Once the battle is joined, however, with the outcome certain, he will have maximum incentive to use weapons of mass destruction and to give what he can't use to terrorists who can torment us with them long after he is gone. We cannot be paralyzed by this possibility, but we would be foolish to ignore it. And according to recent reports, the CIA agrees with this analysis. A world united in sharing the risk at least would make this occurrence less likely and more bearable and would be far more likely to share with us the considerable burden of rebuilding a secure and peaceful post-Saddam Iraq.
President Bush's speech in Cincinnati and the changes in policy that have come forth since the Administration began broaching this issue some weeks ago have made my vote easier. Even though the resolution before the Senate is not as strong as I would like in requiring the diplomatic route first and placing highest priority on a simple, clear requirement for unlimited inspections, I will take the President at his word that he will try hard to pass a UN resolution and will seek to avoid war, if at all possible.
Because bipartisan support for this resolution makes success in the United Nations more likely, and therefore, war less likely, and because a good faith effort by the United States, even if it fails, will bring more allies and legitimacy to our cause, I have concluded, after careful and serious consideration, that a vote for the resolution best serves the security of our nation. If we were to defeat this resolution or pass it with only a few Democrats, I am concerned that those who want to pretend this problem will go way with delay will oppose any UN resolution calling for unrestricted inspections.
This is a very difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make -- any vote that may lead to war should be hard -- but I cast it with conviction.
And perhaps my decision is influenced by my eight years of experience on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue in the White House watching my husband deal with serious challenges to our nation. I want this President, or any future President, to be in the strongest possible position to lead our country in the United Nations or in war. Secondly, I want to insure that Saddam Hussein makes no mistake about our national unity and for our support for the President's efforts to wage America's war against terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. And thirdly, I want the men and women in our Armed Forces to know that if they should be called upon to act against Iraq, our country will stand resolutely behind them.
My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for uni-lateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose -- all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people throughout the world.
Over eleven years have passed since the UN called on Saddam Hussein to rid himself of weapons of mass destruction as a condition of returning to the world community. Time and time again he has frustrated and denied these conditions. This matter cannot be left hanging forever with consequences we would all live to regret. War can yet be avoided, but our responsibility to global security and to the integrity of United Nations resolutions protecting it cannot. I urge the President to spare no effort to secure a clear, unambiguous demand by the United Nations for unlimited inspections.
And finally, on another personal note, I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year's terrible attacks on our nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers who have gone through the fires of hell may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know that I am.
So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President and we say to him - use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein - this is your last chance - disarm or be disarmed.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Mr. Reich has always presented his opinion, regardless if it's out of step with the official Clinton line. Admitting that Hillary told 'untruths' is fairly bold however. Is his insurance paid up?
The sooner the "Clintstones" depart the scene the better this country will be......Time for the 1960's generation to move the retirement home!!!
Bob, I'm an independent who is currently supporting the Reps due to their stronger stand on national security and defense in this WOT time. However, I've always respected your frankness and humility and have generally believed that you are correct on the issues you speak out on. So, my compliments to you on this frank revealing of the true Hillary--although, I do admit that I've known it for many years and am somewhat surprised that you seem to be understanding her true self for the first time (at least in public). I extend best wishes for your continued success at whatever you take on.
I've yet to understand why it is a national imperative to cover those under the age of 25 with health insurance at public expense. As the father of two 25-year olds whom I think are typical of their age group, I think my point at least deserves some consideration. Most 20 somethings have cable television, have discretionary purchases such as cigarettes, liquor, video games, Ipods, etc., etc. When I was that age, I made decisions to insure my family and forego those things. Are we know supposed to insure the decisionally uninsured? Or, if we gave each of them the money to purchase insurance and made it their choice, would they purchase it? This is the problem with Dems who want to force insurance on everyone and make all of us share the cost.
Character matters. And increasingly the character I see in HRC is one the gray among us recall with vivid revulsion. Is Hillary perhaps just Richard Nixonn in drag? Power hungry, paranoid of enemies, profane in private, sactimonious in public, petty and vindictive, against the war while being for the war, amoral with politics of political positions of convenience rather than conscience...... And so forgetful. Doesn't anyone else remember that her claimed expertise in Health Care comes from being an abysmal failure?
It would be nice if we got a nice concise plan from Barack Obama on what he wants to do. Most everything I've heard and read about him it has not been specific at all.
At least Hillary, long before anyone else did, worked on the issue of Universal health care, long before it was a popular issue. She took the heat, and was strong in that.
If we stick with the same old liberal left wing nonsense we are NEVER going to get a democrat in office as president. We need to stay central to get in office, and Hillary knows what she needs to do. Guiliani is a conservative in moderates clothing, so we need a true moderate(and view Hillary's voting record, you'll see she is), who isn't afraid to stand up to people.
And you know what they say, Mr. Reich, with friends like you..who needs enemies.
Wow, now this is an interesting conversation the folks are having. There's one thing you can say about HRC that is an indisputable fact-she is a Polarizing person, with a capital "P"
Now Mrs Clinton has dragged out Obama's kindergarten teacher to dispute Obama's statement that he "only recently decided to run for president" because, in kindergarten he said he wanted to grow up to be the president! And Mrs. Clinton's henchmen also found Obama's third grade teacher who backs the charge up. She states then when she assigned her third grade an essay titled "What I want to be when I grow up" Obama wrote that he "wants to be the president." So HRC comes out and claims that Obama is a liar, that he's always had a clear ambition to be powerful." Oh come off it Hitlary, this is what America used to be all about, that any kid, anywhere in this country, could grow up to be the president. Heck, I wanted to be the president when I was kid too. What is wrong with her that she sees this is such a terrible thing she tries to use it to attack Obama? HRC's true self is showing, and its not pretty. I am a Republican and I am supporting Huckabee. But I think Obama is a good man who deserves the nomination far more than Slick Willy's political partner.
Obama and Huckabee are two of the cleaner and refreshing candidates we have. I hope one of them wins. I will vote for either of them, they understand the folks who really need help.
The others are all more of the same.
You've nailed it.
HRC may never be a healer or a uniter but she will serve this country better than any of the GOP candidates -
I do wonder if O prevails, HRC, given her jumbo ego, would be gracious enough to concede and actively campaign for him -
Mr. Reich,
It's amazing how, when a Democrat such as yourself, speaks truth to power, as in your post, rather than continuing to cave under the Clintons' thuggish and condescending approach to the American people, one can feel the spark of true hope and change come alive in the Democratic Party. Barak Obama may not be perfect, but he's a) more electable than Hillary Clinton and b) would be entering the White House free of the heavy load of shady deals and promises which the Hillary and Bill train would be hauling along with it. At the magical moment -- the Democrats on the brink of nominating an African American man for the world's most powerful office--it's beyond belief that so many in the party would rather hand the keys back to the Clintons and their cynical brand of corporate politics. Thank you Mr. Reich for being one of the few prominent Democrats who have the guts to speak up. Are you listening, Bob Rubin?
There is something oddly sinister about the idea of her campaign as having an inevitiable lock on the presidency.
I'm in Des Moines, Iowa and I plan on distributing this piece to my undecided friends. Thanks, Mr. Reich, for speaking truth to power.
Why are you so vicious for your former boss' wife? isn't
it because they complained about the tells-all book you wrote? Please do not assume readers do not know anything.
this tells people you are not a grateful man. Being not grateful make people think twice what you say.
I'm a Republican, and wouldn't vote for either Hillary or Obama in the general election.
But Obama's idea to subject all income, not just the first $95K, to Social Security payroll taxes does have some merit. The problem is that it would represent a massive tax increase on those who create jobs, and would kill the economy.
What would be needed is a flat Social Security tax on all income which provides just enough to pay the anticipated benefits over, say, a 40-year period.
Since a payroll tax on ALL income would have a much broader base than the current tax on the first $95K, the tax RATE needed would be much less than today's rate. The rich would pay more than they do now, which would please Democrats, but it would be a tax CUT for the working poor and middle-class, with the break-even point somewhere around $150K.
Why aren't candidates of either party proposing this? It would probably be both a political and fiscal winner!
I hate to be a real fly in the ointment but why doesn't anyone on the left look at privatizing social security. It's amazing that every problem we have as a country is always solved by more regulation and more taxes according to the left. Keep an open mind ...take a gander at Chile's SS system...a great model that could work for us.
Walter Bajak said. C'mon Dr. Reich you are skimping on the facts here. If you have studied both plans shall we say you are being 'economical with the truth."
A.HRC's rx plan calls for 2 crucial items lacking in O's wobbly "plan". First, HMO's will not be allowed to refuse anyone coverage. Secondly she provides a Government run rx plan in competion with HMO's and dares the HMO's to compete, as they say in the free market.
B. Social Security.HRC said O's proposal to raise the cap punishes the middle class. She said, she wants a commission because if you stopped raiding the trust fund you may not need to do anything. But if you are going to amend the cap, the fairest way would be, first, give those earning up to say $ 20,000 a credit $1,000 for their FICA, keep the cap where it is but have a donut hole between the current cap and say $ 250,000 and then have the FICA assessed on incomes over that amount.
If you read her plans and her statements maybe you would be in a position to write an honest criticque instead of a polemic
Out of all the Clinton sycophants, you Prof. Reich, are the only one whom I consider fully trustworthy. The balance of the group were a variety of:
a. Egomaniacs
b. Necromantic
c. Whores,
d. Compulsive lawyers
e. Bad sports, lacking any sense of humor.
In 1991, as part of the National Clinton Finance Committee, I had the unmitigated effrontery to ask (during a conference call with Paul Bagalla) what plans the candidate had to promote renewal energy. That question was my first "strike". The phone was swiftly passed to the next 'blood-donor'.
I wish you had run for president. I like Obama but not as much as I would prefer. Hillary is like one of those string-powered speaking dolls. If the Dems are not careful, they will blow yet another election and we will be stuck with another bible-thumping corporate shillster.
"Why is HRC stooping So Low?"
It's called politics, Robert. When your opponent hits you, you hit back just as hard.
The Dukakis/Kerry days of "taking the high road" right to the loser's circle are OVER.
I applaud Hillary's campaign for understanding how campaigns work (it's about time!!), and am mystified by your cluelessness having served in a high level cabinent position.
I read Mr. Reich's book Reason and was extremely impressed. I read his comments today and am wondering how the same person could have written both. For starters there is a simple answer to the question the article poses: Why is HRC stooping so Low? She is doing so beause Mr. Obama did so. He stepped up his attacks against her and picked up in the polls and now she is doing the same in return. Those people bemoaning negative politics need to stop criticizing the politicans and start criticizing the voters who respond to this type of politics. Mr. Obama has been saying for weeks that Mrs. Clinton lacks conviction, refuses to give straight answers to tough questions, and is part of a corrupt system.
Clearly Mr. Obama in refusing to establish a plan that mandates universal coverage is showing a lack of conviction. Even if you argue that a mandate won't work, there is no harm in having it, and it has important symbolic value in saying that in this society we believe ALL people deserve access to healthcare. In his book one of Mr. Reich's major points is that we need to recapture a sense of a social contract, that as Americans we are all in this together. What could be more symbolic of that then requiring that we all share the costs and benefits of providing healthcare for all Americans. A mandate is essential because it will ensure no one who can afford health care is able to skirt that responsibility.
In the last debate we saw that Mr. Obama refuse to give straight or simple answers to many question, including the very question about illegal immigration that he tried to pounce all over Mrs. Clinton for not answering.
Finally we have seen that his PAC has accepted money from corporations and lobbyists adnd funneled it to politicians in key states. I don't feel any of these things zre in and of themselves deeply problematic- but it is a problem in the sense that they are exactly the type of thing Mr. Obama has criticized Mrs. Clinton for. The politics of hope has obvioulsy been replaced by the politics of hypocrisy.
Mr. Reich is equally a hypocrite in my mind for calling out Mrs. Clinton for simlpy responding in kind to Mr. Obama. He is also wrong when he states Mrs. Clinton attacked Mr. Obama's plan for social security. She simply believes that it is necessary to approach the issue in a bipartisan fashion if there is to be any real progress. She is not inherently oppossed to what Mr. Obama has proposed, she simply believes we ought to pursue solutions to the problem in an alternative way. One that is politically more feasible and likely to succeed. If Mr. Reich wants a truly progressive candidate with real convictions and courage he should endorse Dennis Kucinich. If not he should stop criticizing Hillary Clinton for trying to build an effective coalition that will allow the Democrats to win for a change.
Robert
You concerns about HRC are comforting.
As a Democratic operative, it is good to see that YOU are as discomforted with HRC as the rest of us are.
That doesn't excuse your participation in the corrupt administration and your woeful track record.
I find it interesting you are distancing yourself now, its a little late.
These are problems YOU should have solved when you had a chance. Instead you leave it to "GWB" (I like cute acronyms too) to clean up your hopeless mess. The you complain when he does.
I'mn glad Drudge posted and linked your blog. Sane people can now give your the feedback you need to allow you to understand your rightful place in the intellectual food chain ... right there with bacteria and fungus.
PS ... is "O" Obama or Oprah?
You're suprised a Clinton would attack anyone? Where you paying attention in the 90's?
Sorry Fred; that's WERE you paying attention in the 90's. I must have been a product of Hillary's Arkansas improvement to the public school system (the schools sunk to 49 out of 50).
Robert Reich is wrong, Obama's plan is a give away to the insurance companys. His $65 billion dollar a year plan will give us a second rate poor people health insurance. Obama says he will create a National Health Insurance Exchange to help individuals who wish to purchase private insurance.
Hillary's plan is modelled after the Germany style universal health care which 93% choose goverment run fund over private insurance.
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