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Tuesday, January 22, 2008

The Politics of an Economic Nightmare

A possible economic meltdown is worrisome enough, but a possible meltdown in an election year is downright frightening. For months now, Republicans have been pushing the White House to take some action that looked and sounded big enough to give them some cover if and when things got worse. President Bush has now responded with a stimulus package more than twice as large as the one Bill Clinton briefly entertained at the start of 1993 but couldn't get passed.

Not to be outdone, Democrats want to appear at least as bold, which means they'll suspend pay-go rules and throw fiscal responsibility out the window. In other words, hold your noses, because the "bipartisan" stimulus package that's about to be introduced could be a real stinker, including tax cuts for everyone and everything under the sun -- except, perhaps, for the key group of lower-income Americans. These are the people who don't earn enough to pay much if any income taxes, but who are the most likely to spend whatever extra money they get and therefore are most likely to stimulate the economy. The real behind-the-scenes battle will be over whose constituencies get what tax cuts, and for how long. Don't be surprised if the only thing Congress really stimulates is campaign contributions.

Meanwhile, Fed chairman Ben Bernanke and Co. have surprised everyone with a rate cut larger and sooner than expected. The three-quarters of a percentage point ("75 basis points" in biz-speak) cut announced Tuesday morning may not sound like much, but it's bigger than any rate cut in decades. The politics here are more subtle because Bernanke and his Federal Reserve governors are supposed to be independent of politics. But as witnessed under the reign of previous chairman Alan "it's prudent to reduce the surplus with a tax cut" Greenspan, Fed chairs can have political agendas. Bernanke has been under a lot of pressure lately to cut rates big-time -- and the pressure has come not only from Washington Republicans but from panicked Wall Street Democrats, including, apparently, my old colleague Robert Rubin, formerly President Clinton's treasury secretary. (By the way, what could Rubin have been thinking when he allowed Citicorp to sell all those fancy securitized debt instruments, while agreeing to buy them back if they couldn't be resold?) Expect lots and lots more Washington activity -- enough seemingly bold strokes to convince voters that our nation's capital is doing whatever is necessary to stop whatever seems to be going wrong with the economy.

The problem is, people have different views about what's going wrong. Wall Street sees it as a credit crisis -- a mess that seems never to reach bottom because nobody on Wall Street has any idea how many bad loans are out there. Therefore, nobody knows how big the losses are likely to be when the bottom is finally reached. And precisely because nobody knows, nobody wants to lend any more money. A rate cut won't change this. It's like offering a 10-pound lobster to someone so constipated he can't take in another mouthful.

Main Street sees it as a housing crisis. As I've noted, homes are the biggest assets Americans own -- their golden geese for retirement and their piggy banks for home equity loans and refinancing. But home prices have been dropping quickly. It's the first time this has happened in many decades -- beyond the memories of most Americans, which is why they never expected it to happen, why they bought houses so readily when credit was so easily available, and why so many people bought two or more of them, speculating and fixing up and then flipping. But now several million Americans may lose their homes, and tens of millions more have only their credit cards to live on and are reaching the outer limits of what they can spend. As consumer spending shrinks, companies will reduce production and cut payrolls. That has already begun to happen. It's called recession.

How much worse can it get? As I said before, the housing bubble drove home prices up 20 to 40 percent above historic averages relative to earnings and rents. So now that the bubble is bursting, you can expect prices to drop by roughly the same amount, and new home construction to contract. The latter plunged last month to its lowest point in more than 16 years. A managing partner of a large Wall Street financial house told me a few days ago the scenario could get much worse. He gave a 20 percent chance of a depression.

Even if a stimulus package were precisely targeted to consumers most likely to spend any money they received, the housing slump could overwhelm it. According to a recent estimate by Merrill-Lynch, the slump will hit consumer spending to the tune of $360 billion this year and next. That's more than double the size of the stimulus package President Bush or any leading Democrat is now talking about. And the Merrill-Lynch estimate is conservative.

In reality, the crisis is both a credit crunch and the bursting of the housing bubble. Wall Street is in terrible shape and Main Street is about to be in terrible shape. And there's not a whole lot that can be done about either of these problems -- because they are the results of years of lax credit standards, get-rich-quick schemes, wild speculation on Wall Street and in the housing market, and gross irresponsibility by the Fed, the Treasury and the Comptroller of the Currency.

As a practical matter, our only real hope for avoiding a deep recession or worse depends on loans and investments from abroad -- some major U.S. financial firms have already gotten key cash infusions from foreign governments buying stakes in them -- combined with export earnings as the dollar continues to weaken. But this is something no politician wants to admit, especially in an election year. So we're going to go through weeks of posturing about stimulus packages of one sort or another, and then see enacted the big fat bonanza of a temporary tax break that will likely have little effect. That, perhaps along with a few more rate cuts by the Fed. The presidential candidates will be asked what should be done about the worsening economy, and they'll give vague answers. None will likely admit the truth: We're going to need the rest of the world to bail us out.

74 Comments:

Blogger Michael O'Shaugnessy said...

I enjoy your blog tremendously, but I'm having the most difficult time understanding ...including tax cuts for everyone and everything under the sun -- except, perhaps, for the key group of lower-income Americans. These are the people who don't earn enough to pay much if any income taxes... which appears oxymoronic. How can Congress cut Federal taxes lower than zero? Sure they are hammered by social security and Medicare payroll taxes (even worse than they see in their check) - but what are you proposing, simply giving cash to the working poor and lower-middle-class?

Tuesday, 22 January, 2008  
Anonymous Reich Fan said...

Thanks as always. I'm just a normal guy trying to make it in this world. The media stinks. Thanks so much for always saying it like it is. It helps tremendously. Please always blog your perceptions and thoughts.

Bring back the vlogs in the frumpy hair and PJ's. They're awesome.

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger Scott Ferguson said...

"but what are you proposing, simply giving cash to the working poor and lower-middle-class?"

That is precisely what is being proposed. Think of it as an extension of the EITC.

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Anonymous Idaho_Spud said...

There is no amount of fiscal stimulus that will prevent what is about to happen: a near-depression.

Millions of US families have been living well beyond their incomes by extracting cash from their homes.

Two of my co-workers have spent six figures above and beyond their salaries in the past years by using HELOCs and refinancing with a cash out. $800 per individual (to be paid for by our children) is not going to make one iota of difference in this debt-driven, consumer-spending dependent economy.

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
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Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Anonymous iamborg said...

Well, it is time to admit my guilt! I voted twice for W and now as a native wish he would move to another state. Now this Yankee cowboy has got us in a war we'll never win. A deficit we'll never pay off. As other readers have said, this nation has lost it's direction. We've been so blessed above all nations that we are now fat, lazy and want it all NOW. What is coming is deserved. My wife and I have no debt. We paid off our house not as an investment but as a home, a place to live. Credit cards are used as cash but paid off everyone month. We save till it hurts and give to our local church. By no means am I judging anyone, who has that right but a recession will clean some of this mess up and force all the hidden financial accounting to be revealed. Wake up USA, clean up your mess and get back to producing instead of consuming.

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger Lucky Buck said...

Very gloomy, but isn't there a possibility that the global capital markets could produce some cash that might find it's way to putting some money into the US mortgage market? More money available for home borrowing would presumably stop or slow the drop in home prices. Would it not?

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger Art A Layman said...

michael o' shaughnessy:

Faith and begorra! Where have you been? The Earned Income Tax Credit was enacted years ago.

Dr. Reich:

I fear you are right. My extremely limited knowledge of all things economic tells me that we are out of silver bullets to ward off the rush of the werewolves.

I had been suspect of Greenspan's raising of rates during the last years of his rein. I, like most layman, did not realize the havoc created with his severely lowering of the rates in the first place but especially felt the raising of rates was much less dependent on inflation concerns than on reloading the Fed's arsenal of weaponry.

Notwithstanding all his misjudgments, this action might prove to have been a stroke of genius (well, ok, maybe just good judgment). In a larger sense, though one cannot dispute the financial implications of interest rates, it would seem to me that the greater impact of Fed actions is in altering moods; creating the warm, fuzzy feeling you used to get when your mom told you, "everything will be alright".

An aside: I'm listening to Joe Scarborough interviewing, that bastion of Martian economic theory, Larry Kudlow. Larry informs us that recessions and stock markets corrections are cycling events that occur every so often and we shouldn't panic. He explains that any stimulus package should be directed toward capital not consumers. He even trumpets his life long harangue that eliminating any taxes on dividends and capital gains would be a stimulative boon.

Layman wisdom, as opposed to conventional wisdom, would suggest that while consumers react with hesitancy in times of uncertainty, their hesitancy pales in comparison to that of the capital controllers. The consumer has three options; spend, save or pay down debt. On the one hand, given the size of consumer debt, one could posit that paying down debt is the wisest course of action. Saving, keeping options open, is also sensible. Spending, the most desirous economic action, makes the least sense from a financial management perspective. Given that many consumers often take irrational actions, my apologies to economic theory, and realizing that spending is a powerful, albeit shortlived, drug for fighting depression, many of those who shouldn't, will, spend. To your point this will likely be the lower income folks.

Those with capital, individuals or businesses, have, of course, the same three options (saving, perhaps being replaced with investment). Spending is the least likely option for this group since their access to spending resources has been much less impaired. In most cases, these folks have much more manageable debt structures, most with reserves of capital in case a severe catastrophe occurs, so paying down debt, for these folks, is optional, with no real sense of urgency as a strategy. This leaves the investment option. Investing in paper, stocks, bonds, commodity futures, does nothing to aid an economic turnaround and comes with an enhanced risk in uncertain times. Investing in production expansion, either maintaining jobs or adding new ones is clearly the recommended prescription. But with uncertain outcomes why would they do that? Why would they want to spend additional resources to possibly do nothing more than increase inventories? Hopefully many will continue current production levels, maintaining current job levels while they await a clearer picture of where we are heading. Many will not; in the short term there is not a lot of cost or risk, at the micro level, in cutting back payrolls while waiting out the results. In contrast there are significant costs and risks in adding to payrolls in uncertain times. Which option would you choose?

The other exacerbating factor is the Stock Market. It is the only day to day barometer we have that gives a hint to what is happening. It is a false chronicler. There is as much, sometimes more, profit to be made on the short side, the pessimistic side, of the Market, as on the long side. It is at best a questionable reflection of expectations. It is a mistress that can turn on you in a heart beat and therefore is best viewed with a skeptic's eyes until longer term trends prevail.

Net, net, we are in a real quandry. It is doubtful that any targeted stimulus will produce much of an energetic boost. Our best hope is to slow the bleeding and hope the wound will heal quickly.

Global trade has only aggravated the process. On the one hand it has opened up many additional investment opportunities to which additional capital can flow, doing little for the US economy. Further it has drastically increased the number of variables to analyze when trying to sort out uncertainty.

Any businessman will tell you that to best weather a bad storm it is necessary to maintain profitability and hold tight to a strong, liquid balance sheet. In our, misguided, often inane, inclination to compare government to business this principle has value. We, as a government, have so mismanaged our "profits" and especially the liquidity of our balance sheet, that our tools do deal with the current potential disaster are limited and to a great extent anemic.

Globalization, with its admirable goal of improving the plight of all the world's citizens, has, so far, been nurtured by our insatiable desire to consume. This, by itself, would not be all bad. As the do-si-so has continued, however, we added to the nurturing our production capacity. By shifting so much production overseas we are killing the golden goose that is the life force of our consumption ability.

It is probably far too early to play our ace of trump but perhaps the best stimulus would be a government jobs program, along the lines of WPA, to immediately create new, decent paying jobs. Certainly there are numerous infrastructure needs that could make such a program productive as opposed to just a giveaway. The planning and logistics of this kind of action would inhibit this as an emergency response but maybe the rumblings of such an action would alter moods of doom enough to hold us steady until it could be put in place.

Keep thinking Robert cause this is about the limit of my ideas.

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger Robert D Feinman said...

Where does half of the federal discretionary spending go? Anyone? The answer is militarism. Does building and dropping bombs provide an economic stimulus? Yes. Does it provide as much of a boost as building schools, roads, or paying for more teachers, or nurses? No.

Notice that not one person is discussing doing anything about runaway militarism. The military is now the fourth branch of government (this is quite common elsewhere, see Pakistan or Thailand).

The economic power of militarism extends beyond the standing army to contractors, local economies which depend upon bases, university R&D projects funded by DoD and DoE, and military sales abroad.

How big does the elephant in the room have to get before it's noticed?

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger James said...

Bob,
New topic: What steps could the Obama campaign take to show well in California? I'm not asking for you to support for him, just some sense of what you might see in the economic and political environment for him to do well in CA.
Beth and jim in Portland

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger Art A Layman said...

iamborg:

I strongly condemn your voting habits. I severely chastise you, for failing to do your duty in following the American dream, like the rest of us, by acting financially prudently. The next thing you'll tell us is that your financial resources are such that you can weather a significant economic storm. Have you no shame?

All kidding aside, I do agree with your summary of the conditions and behaviors extant in our culture. In fairness though, we must acknowledge the pervasive nature of the messages sent to the masses.

During the period from the 40's through the 70's, earnings were good and fair across most all spectrums of our society. Jobs, especially manufacturing jobs, flourished. Growth in manufacturing lead to other good jobs in sales, administration, supervision and distribution. Many making their way during this period had only family tales of the Great Depression; family tales that were often viewed as embellished. The lessons our parents and especially our grandparents learned from that disasterous downfall seemed almost Cinderellish.

Many of us, believing that the Prince had found us and the glass slipper fit, were on our way to living happily everafter. Many of our parents, enjoying this better life in the more mature stages of their lives, wanted more for us, their children. Emphasis was put on seeking a college education and many of us did that. This lead to even higher paying jobs and bright career paths to continue the dream. Meanwhile for those who didn't buy the higher education dream, either because they didn't get the influence from their parents/peers, etc. or they deemed that they did not have the ability nor the fortitude to achieve it, were, nevertheless, able to get by quite ably in the plethora of unskilled jobs emanating from the manufacturing sector and its attendent offshoots.

During this euphoric period, material things abounded. More goods meant more competition for the discretionary dollars of the populace. Prices, though rising, maintained decent stability and the advent of more and more fancy gizmos served to whet our consumption tendencies. Advertising became less an art and more a science. TV meant that in our homes, every night, the marketplace came to us, cascading their wares in front of our eyes, with verbiage, not just extolling the virtues of their products, but also informing us of the utility we would enjoy from purchasing their products. Many of these products represented new technologies; we were, then, as we are now, entranced by new technologies. So consumming continued to increase, becoming an ever larger portion of our GDP.

There, of course, existed the "jones" phenomenon. It flourished as the number of neat gizmos increased and we wanted to keep up with, if not surpass, our friends and neighbors. There were minor economic blips here and there during this time but they were usually minimal, both in duration and depth. There was little reason to suspect that this wonderland would not continue and expand. It was now the American way; the answer to all the philosophers as to "what should be".

As I'm sure you are aware, for a variety of reasons the bloom began falling off the rose; wages, earnings, began to stagnate. The oil embargo in the 70's was most impactive to the sublimity of our daily lives. Scrambles for smaller, more fuel efficient autos portended a seemingly more discerning attitude toward consumption but did nothing to dampen our desire for consumption, in fact it may have fed it even more.

Anyway as manufacturing jobs began to dwindle; some due to corporate mergers and buyouts, then later, many moving overseas. Out came the rug, as we were standing on it. By this time consumption was driving our economic growth. It was considered by many a national duty to spend. Let not we consumers be the cause of the death of the dream. All the commercial institutions conglomerate against us; even the government extols the necessity for consumption.

There are those, like you and your wife, who, by virtue of strong family values, held dear, or just blessed with an ability to look analytically at the future and realize that prudence is the vanguard against catastrophe, took another tack, good for you.

The perplexing question is, where would we be today, economically, had most of the populace followed that same star?

All this to say that choice and free will do not exist in a vacuum and the ability to withstand external forces vary within each of us. It is, therefore, somewhat unfair to suggest that the suffering that could occur for many is deserved and that they should learn a lesson by that suffering.

Whence considering the plight of others, criticism is not uncalled for, but always keep in mind; "There, but for the grace of God, go I".

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger Art A Layman said...

robert d feinman:

Though your points are valid, commencing the dismantling of the industrial/military complex during the current imbroglio would be tanatamount to insanity.

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Secretary Reich,

About two years ago, I remember listening to you on NPR. You warned of this exact crisis!!

@ Robert D Feinman
Great point!! It seems like there is a rather large constituency that backs an aggressive foreign policy. The only person who seems to take the country in a different direction is Ron Paul, although he has no chance of being elected. By the way, he was laughed at (by Romney) in a debate when he commented on the readiness of America to go to war, pointing out that we are often looking for trouble. Where are the Democrats in this? Why havent they challenged the militant machine in Washington? Is Hillary Clinton a Republican disguised as a Democrat?

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Anonymous vtpriest said...

Well, see, here's what I don't get: If the Fed lowers the interest rate here, and foreign banks keep their rates higher (and they said today they would), why would foreign capital come here, to be invested at low interest, when it can go somewhere else (safer?) and receive a higher rate of return? Won't the end result be a flight of capital from the US rather than the reverse?

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Anonymous iamborg said...

Art A Layman:

I find your points to be accurate. If it sounded as if my desire was for my fellow Americans to suffer that is not at all what was meant.

My point was spending beyond one's means is not the best practice IMHO. Sure we all need a mortage for a home unless your in the upper end of the wealth curve. But I wonder if buying all those goodies on credit is as wise as paying down one's debt then paying cash for those extras is not the best policy.

This writer never claims to be a expert in financial matters. More likely my KISS money management style is due to the lack of wisdom in those matters.

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I generally agree with Dr. Reich's comments (so often the case) but don't agree that there's nothing we can do to address the underlying causes of our economic distress. I agree a stimulus isn't the answer. Stimulus could help soften the blow & maybe buy us some time, so it's worth an attempt (same logic as 'the surge' in Iraq, only in this case nobody gets killed ... win-win!)

But the real answer would be something modeled on the Home Owners Loan Corp. from back in the New Deal. By stepping in to buy troubled mortgages at a deep discount, it could help clean up the uncertainty and mess on a lot of investors' and companies' books (without bailing them out - if they made unwise mortgage trades, they'd still lose money; but in return for taking that loss, they'd get less uncertainty & cash in exchange for an illiquid asset of unknown value). At the same time, by then renegotiating terms with the home owners, such a corporation could help to minimize the evictions, foreclosures, and bankruptcies of individuals who bit off more mortgage debt than they could chew (again, without necessarily bailing them out, just spreading their repayments such that they & their families won't face homelessness & bankruptcy as a result of one bad decision).

That, combined with some short-term stimulus & some reforms to the credit rating sector, could really help us get control of this crisis. Politics being what it is, it'd be hard to imagine all of that happening at once. But maybe if the stimulus bill gets past the President soon (buying the economy some time, hopefully), then maybe Congress can run some of these other ideas up the flagpole - most likely they'd get blocked by the GOP, but then the Dem nominee can campaign on them & we might be able to slip them in early next year.

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger tiptoe said...

"...our only real hope for avoiding a deep recession or worse depends on loans and investments from abroad -- some major U.S. financial firms have already gotten key cash infusions from foreign governments buying stakes in them -- combined with export earnings as the dollar continues to weaken....

Mr. Reich, can you comment or write further on how this would play out?

Thank you.

tt

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Anonymous FFDIC said...

You left out the FDIC!

Wednesday, 23 January, 2008  
Blogger DFB said...

Thank you for the frank commentary.

I don't think anything can or will stimulate the economy in the way politicians are touting. I also think including the folks who don't pay income tax will only provide a short lived stimulus but it won't be enough. How often will we need such one-off stimulus packages? Can our children and grand children afford it?

Instead, the government should save money by pulling out of its wars, then redistribute that money back into the economy in the form of infrastructure projects and research into clean, alternative fuels to replace oil. Oil will one day run out and we need to be prepared.

But alas, the government will get its shot in the arm, like an athlete who gets several cortisone shots rather than allowing a wound to heal.

I'm not an economist, but from my vantage point, it looks as a correction needs to happen. If it doesn't happen now, it will happen later and it will be much, much worse.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Jackson Wallace said...

yeah, GWB is a yankee, right.
Keep telling yourself that jeeter. Bush may have been born to Yankee parents and gone to a yankee college, but its his connection to the state of Texas that burned out his brain, and did as much to shape his stupid yokel republican supply-side pseudo-christian couch soldier, false macho swaggering. The man is a product of the suburban South, and doncha ferget it, pardner. I suppose next you're gonna tell me GW was really a democrat. Grow a pair and admit the folly of and lack of brainpower of your people.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous iamborg said...

Jackson Wallace -

It's regretful that morons like yourself are allowed to consume the valuable resouces of this planet. Hopefully in the future we can establish and enforce laws that will limit your procreation.

I've not agreed with all of Dr. Reich's ideals in the past but believe he is a honorable man. Unlike some of you self-righteous liberals who believe you have the right to judge any and all.

Well, go forth and spend like crazy, get deeper and deeper in debt, run up those credit cards. We in Texas will ride out this recession a lot better than the rest of you! As far as I'm concerned Tejas should secede and free itself from the rest of you.

As the flag says "Come and Take it"

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Blogger Art A Layman said...

anonymous:

Why havent they challenged the militant machine in Washington?

In the current war time environment, campaigning on an issue such as breaking up the military/industrial complex would be proclaimed treason by the Pubs. Makes good political sense to avoid that postion until the goal of the candidacy has been achieved.

vtpriest:

It's called "leverage" and increased profits due to lower interest costs.

Also entry into US commerce, by foreign entities, is much easier when times are troubled over here. They can afford the short term risk and gain a foothold and then wait for the good times.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Blogger Art A Layman said...

iamborg:

I didn't take your missive as condemning, more as gloating. Having come to a bump in the road which validates your superior financial behavior, gloating is a natural tendency.

But I wonder if buying all those goodies on credit is as wise as paying down one's debt then paying cash for those extras is not the best policy.

I, steeped in financial education and experience, can tell you from personal experience, your premise is right on; I tried it the other way.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Blogger Art A Layman said...

dbf:

I find it interesting, and you are in good company, this premise that we should end the wars and spend the money internally.

We don't have this money! It's all borrowed money! It's off budget so is an add to the eternal budget deficits.

No disagreement that we need to end the wars and stop the selling of America. None to the premise that we have many infrastructure needs to address. Just want to see us get back to a sound financial basis and then go forward, rather than to continue having the government spending on credit cards, akin to our consumptive populace.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Blogger Art A Layman said...

iamborg:

Uh oh! My view of gloating may have been a misjudgment. Based on your reply to Jackson Wallace, bravado might have been more apt.

Given the latest brain trust contributions of Texas; GWB, Alberto Gonzales, Tom Delay, Phil Gramm, and a raft of other nitwits, the prospect of secession might not find much argument.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't resession or even depression have a positive impact on the environment - ie. less consumption - less congestion on freeways due to lay-offs. Every cloud ...

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous earbank said...

I appreciate your thoughts a great deal. Thank you.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Lead Zeppelin said...

I think if they want to do an immediate kick back to the working class American,notify all the employers out there, not to take Federal taxes out of the employees paycheck for the next 3 months!!!

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Blogger Michael O'Shaugnessy said...

@Scott Ferguson

I am aware of the EITC. It cannot be considered by any stretch of the imagination a tax "cut". Tax credits are not tax cuts. I'm not an economics expert, but I've completed enough tax forms to know the difference.

I imagine honest people can debate whether tax credits are "good thing" when it comes to stimulating an economy - but honest people cannot call giving money from the treasury coffers to people paying no taxes a "tax cut".

I was seeking clarity from Mr. Reich on what he wrote and what he meant.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Reich,
I agree with everything you've stated except for the need to sell our assets to foreign investors to prevent the coming disaster. Some 3 years ago, you warned of the pending drop in the dollar and suggested we might want to buy gold. I fully agreed and took your advise with great enthusiasm, thanks.

I would suggest a 3 year "Free America" tax on the top 20% of income earners. The proceeds used to provide the economic stimulous package needed today. The stimulous package would consist of $800 alternative energy credits to be given to every adult. The credits could only be used on alternative energy investments or energy saving investments. Those who chose not to use them could sell them on the open market.

This would not only stimulate an industry which is vital to our survival, it would keep dollars in the U.S., provide jobs now, and have a compound effect because it returns interest in dollars not spent on fossil fuels.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My cat's breath smells like cat food

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we stopped spending the $15 Billion a month that we waste in Iraq and Afghanistan, and distributed that to those making less than $75,000 a year, we'd have a hell of a stimulous.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, our economy is no longer based on manufacturing so exactly what would additional consumer spending provide? certainly not good paying jobs. as you suggest this is more about image then substance.
No mention about the world, saving, other then forcing money into 401K plans which ends up on Wall Street, no mention of cutting Federal Spending or a balance budget, no mention of American consumer lifestyle dependent on cheap energy which is now over, no mention of manufacturing productity and technology change and how America might benefit, no mention of closing down the American oversea's military bases and ending the War, no mention that American consumers cannot service their existing debt, just the same old story from Washington.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go ahead and sucede Texas. Take Dubya with you. Scat!

It is sure nice of China to loan Dubya the money so we get a nice fat check. Thanks kids, I will spend it wisely.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous justme said...

Mr. Reich,

I am concern about the theft of wealth from poor citizens. Many inner city neighborhoods were once victims of redline practices by lenders. Then, after the repeal of the "Glass-Stegall bank act", they became the favorite targets of sub-prime lenders. Many have said that up to 50% of loans made to African Americans during 2000-2006 were sub-prime adjustable rate loans.

As the rich have grown richer during this period, aren't they now in the position to buy the currently foreclosing properties at firesale prices?

If so, doesn't this make this whole episode exactly like organized, sanctioned theft?

Isn't this an example of institutionalized racism?

Is this what G.W. Bush had in mind when he tauted an "ownership society"?

Having stolen the equity of many homeowners, will the rich now become landlords to the poor?

What should be done to remedy the situation?

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What amount of money would we recover if there were a Truman-like war profiteering investigation of all non-open bidding contracts. Little to none, I suppose, (vis, Enron) but it would seem that Halliburton had enough fear of it with a new Congress/President that they changed their country of registration. Couldn't this be used to reduce costs of the war?

While our government been paying corporations to move production overseas, our consumption has also been moved overseas. How much of the the money paid to these war profiteers has returned to the US and how much of it has been taxed by the government. The accounting seems to have been intentionally slipshod to provide maximum profits to political friends.

While this may be a bit off-topic, the inefficiencies inherent in the present system of governmental spending seems to disappear more money into selected pockets rather than in promoting economic growth and general prosperity.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What amount of money would we recover if there were a Truman-like war profiteering investigation of all non-open bidding contracts. Little to none, I suppose, (vis, Enron) but it would seem that Halliburton had enough fear of it with a new Congress/President that they changed their country of registration. Couldn't this be used to reduce costs of the war?

While our government been paying corporations to move production overseas, our consumption has also been moved overseas. How much of the the money paid to these war profiteers has returned to the US and how much of it has been taxed by the government. The accounting seems to have been intentionally slipshod to provide maximum profits to political friends.

While this may be a bit off-topic, the inefficiencies inherent in the present system of governmental spending seems to disappear more money into selected pockets rather than in promoting economic growth and general prosperity.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr Reich,

Your comments only make sense if you assume that the purpose of the stimulus package is to deal with our country's economic crisis in a sensible manner.

When has Bush ever done such a thing? The only real purpose of the stimulus package is to postpone the crash for another year, so
Bush and the Republicans can craft some fairytale blaming the whole mess on the Democrats. On these terms, the stimulus package is likely to be a tremendous success.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous MPD said...

I'd like to say I consider myself a conservative (for Ron Paul for '08). I went for gw in 2000 God knows I didn't for 2004. I'm from Mass.

Reich is more than right...he's damn right and that's the scary part.

I have a fair chunk of money in the bank and I'm going to school. Frankly I don't need the tax cut/rebate whatever. Maybe I'll give it to charity but the odd thing is now they are trying to raise the limit on the pricing of homes before it goes into a ARM. Right now that's set at about 417,000....soon it could be 730,000 you heard that right we are in effect bailing out higher ended homes. We're subsidizing them like ethanol!!!

This country now mirrors itself much like the 70's all over again

1) series of wars overseas draining money, lives and material

2) a dollar falling

3) a choice between either higher interest rates or inflation.

Lowering the interest rates back down again is stupid. If bush 41, clinton and a chunk of reagans term could deal with say 5-6% why bother lowering it?

A lower interest rate makes the dollar weaker which also makes oil priced more to other countries unless they are pegged to ours...and any countries pegged to us goods become cheaper as this happens.

We are decimating the worlds economy now with higher oil and cheaper chinese goods etc.

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous evosanidiot said...

I'm curious. Does anyone take personal responsibility for the economic crisis we now face? Sure Greenspan offered easy money to the markets and our government exacerbated the situation today by touting its tax rebates to the tune of $150 Billion. But who put the gun to anyone's head and forced them to live beyond their means?

As with anything in life, I believe there is a natural order to things. For several years now I have been deeply disturbed by America's insatiable appetite to consume everything in sight. Moreover, it has been abundantly clear that many Americans and our undocumented "guests" have been living beyond their means. For someone with relatively little education in economics (I avoided it in college because I thought it would be boring, but now can't seem to get enough of it . . .), I seem to have an innate sense that things are very much out of "order" with the economy and our general state of society.

It's only natural to want to blame others for our plight: swindled by the realator and the "dishonest" mortgage broker, blaming the President and Congress (albeit they are culpable for the government's fiscal irresponsibility), and a litany of other excuses to avoid the inevitable will only last for a short while. After that, life will change as we have known it.

There are some survivors of the last depression still living and it might be a good idea to learn from them how it's going to be . . .

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous American007 said...

I hope when they pass this phoney-baloney stimulus that instead of using those boring old US Government checks they issue a $300 bill with George W. Bush on the face, winking and grinning.

By the way, your constipation analogy? Priceless.

Thank you for brightening my day, Secretary Reich!

Thursday, 24 January, 2008  
Anonymous plain jane said...

where will the money come from for this stimulous package?
Ive heard say, the social security trust fund.

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Anonymous Got Kids said...

What I really enjoyed was the Larry Kudlows of the world who kept telling us everyhting was just fine, don't worry, it'll all work out, you don't understand economics and my absolute favorite lowering taxes increases government revenue.

I knew to worry when respected economists such as yourself said well sure everyhting could work out if the market does x,y and z but just like in life it rarely works out that way.

Please, be sure to thank Larry and his ilk for me. They have lead us down the prim rose path but they'll still have their house I'm sure.

Friday, 25 January, 2008  
Anonymous A broke guy said...

Filed my taxes yesterday, soon as I got my w-2. I'm a single father who made $26k this year in a job that makes double the income of the average non-college educated male my age in this area (West Texas). I paid $300 in income taxes last year- Getting $4090 back. 90% of that money goes to paying off debt. 10% gets spent to the general community- stuff for the kids, groceries. It helps, a lot, as far as paying off these cash loans. But, as much as I'd like to say I'd never take one out again= My car has 140,000 miles on it, and my house is 40 years old. If something goes wrong with either, there is absolutely no savings. My paycheck barely covers the mortgage, vehicle insurance, gas, and food. I have no credit cards. The $1200 i get from the economic stimulus plan will probably be used to apply to the debt and some new clothes for the kids. I am glad to have this money, but it strikes me that it won't really have much of an economic impact, except to credit companies who are getting paid finally. Keep in mind, for the area I live in, I am better off than most of my friends, family, and neighbors. For the life of me, I don't see how anyone survives on minimum wage, even in a low-cost of living area like West Texas.

The country IS hurting, although it may not seem like it to those who are above the age of 40.

Friday, 25 January, 2008  
Anonymous Sid Hatfield said...

Yep, if we had proper regulation and strict enforcement of the laws already on the books we probably wouldn't be in so deep. Good luck on the above, though. Not very popular in the States. Maybe we should dust of the good ol' MONIAC and take it for a spin :). Or maybe it's time to finally admit that there are no natural laws that govern commerce. Seeing as though it is inherently unnatural. I kid. Sort of.

Friday, 25 January, 2008  
Anonymous SoCalSailor said...

Many years ago I read John K. Galbraith's "The Culture of Contentment." Excellent work. In it, Mr. Galbraith pointed out that monetary policy (diddling with the interest rates) was a rather poor way to influence the economy. He preferred income taxes as an equitable method: when the rich get richer, tax them more; when the poor get poorer, tax them less.

He also said that those who exhorted the value of work, generally don't do much of it.

The title of the book refers to those who are well-off: "Everything is fine, what are you rocking the boat about?"

Friday, 25 January, 2008  
Blogger ty_010 said...

Thanks for your insight Dr. Reich,
Whenever I see things like the 'stimulus plan' it reminds me of my Grandma (child of the depression era) telling my Grandpa (same, and a daily scourer of the WSJ)that his profits were 'just on paper'. Of course she was right and wrong.
The idea that we will need a foriegn 'bail out' is scary to me. Is our supposed service economy just not cutting it?
I was disappointed by the stimulus plan, I think it's a magic band-aid. But, it's here now. Brookings published some more effective ways it could have been enacted: http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/testimonies/2008/0124_fiscalstimulus_furman/0124_fiscalstimulus_furman.pdf

Additionally, I would have liked to see some part of the cash used for infrastructure improvement (I know it takes awhile to have effect, but since part of the problem is consumer confidence...) and most importantly, reform to prevent irresponsible lending.

Saturday, 26 January, 2008  
Anonymous kayxyz said...

George W. Bush and dimwit US Labor Secretary Elaine Chao miss their jobs creation target every month for 7.5 years, and people in banks in New York think mortgages can re-set to higher monthly payments. I'm thankful to know people on the North American continent are that dumb. I've never owned a house. My credit card debt of about 40K, from re-training in health sciences at the age of 50+, is sitting on Elaine Chao's desk. I doubt I pay down 40K in the next decade, so I am also contemplating when some candidate will link the lower prime rate of 3% to the credit card interest rate. Otherwise, the banks will probably get stiffed as more people living on the North American continent declare bankruptcy. As jobs go offshore, so do the attendant ills of capitalism. One of my favorite pics from Investor Business Daily is of Citigroup issuing credit cards in China. Banks may make some money in India and China, where US jobs have gone, but I doubt banks make much money in the US. I read today that in order to raise cash, banks are now planning to charge $3 for ATM use. Good luck with that.

The comedy to enjoy is watching the Republican media machine try to distance the Republican party from George W. Bush. Today I imagined the coup de grace: Saddam Hussein or some of his ilk finally putting out a contract on G. H. W. Bush and offing him. George W. Bush could finally, once and for all, be written off as a failure. Ya, I know it's a great script for Fox Channel's 24.

Saturday, 26 January, 2008  
Blogger john a. bailo said...

There's a lot more to it.

There are also wages. Wages have been suppressed (what's the opposite of a bubble...) for decades.

Employers have threatened labor for 4 long decades with off-shoring, automation and on.

It's time for workers to call the bluff.

That will lead to a huge increase in wages. The $400,000 home will now be a $40,000 in post wage inflated dollars.

The house will become the financial equivlent of a car. No one expects to make money by "investing" in a new car. So too the house. You buy it...pay it off in 5 years and get a new one.

This is a great time to alive!

Saturday, 26 January, 2008  
Anonymous kayxyz said...

For r. feinman on military spending: several years ago i worked in a Title 9 program; when Lyndon Johnson's war on poverty created the Basic Equal Opportunity Grant (BEOG, later renamed Pell Grant), I worked in Talent Search/Upward Bound/Special Services. We were expected to lobby congressional leaders in order to keep funding our programs. Cutting the programs would have made no difference in "balancing the budget," because our program funding was a spit in the ocean. During one trip we made to Washington, DC, my university rented a van so we could travel as a group. As we drove past the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) were lobbying. They were lined up out the doors, down the stairs, and down the sidewalk. Someone pointed out when the military-industrial complex wants to lobby Congress, all they have to do is load up buses with VFW members. In contrast, our programs represent first generation college students and their families, none of them are ever going to travel to Washington, so we have to travel for them.

I think 9/11 showed our past military spending accomplished almost nothing. The Star Wars complex has no power to spot IEDs. The military spending today raises the question how much military spending is enough? Military spending is comparable to paying tuition at an exclusive private graduate school but never receiving grades or a diploma. We never know when we are finished.

Saturday, 26 January, 2008  
Anonymous Moonstruck said...

Thank you for this excellent summary of where we are economically. Why aren't more economists saying it?

I realize it is always difficult to know what to do next and what is the best course.

but the "stimulus" Congress is planning is laughable and so is bernanke's action of late. We are over-consuming and running up debt like crazy so the answer, according to thses weak-willed debt/spending junkies, is: spend more and make more money available to do it thereby increasing debt and lowering the value of the dollar in a global economy!!! Unbelieveble.

What we need is inexpensive alternative energy and workers producing something of value.

Our infrastructure is in terrible shape. How about a stimulus package that would put american to work [not illegal aliens] to repair our failing infrastructure, as Art a Layman suggests.

Come Home America. come home from foreign adventures. take care of your own house - you don't have to w/draw from the global economy - but lets put things in order here at home. Put Americans (American citizents) to work doing real jobs that produce what is needed.

Come Home America. Why doesn't John Edwards say this instead of railing against corporate greed (not that there isn't plenty to go around) and re-telling us the story of his childhood in a "mill" family. What the hell is Hillary saying? And Obama is long on hope but short on a program.

The Republicans meantime are splintering themselves into three parties in the wake of W's destruction of their party (even Peggy Noonan said so recently so you know it must be true.)

Come Home America.

Sunday, 27 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yes, the righteous poor who pay no taxes, yes THEY will spend their "rebate" to stimulate the economy.

Like after Katrina, when the $2000 "credit card" was used here in Houston to buy Chinese flat-screen TVs and Italian shoes?

Sunday, 27 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Robert -

please pause to consider the following

The 20 million undocumented workers in the usa are very hardworking people - many of them have two or three jobs

if those folks were politely assisted to move back to their home countries, perhaps there would be a labor shortage of some sort and all of the unemployed american citizens could find jobs

this would seem to be a cure for unemployment caused by our current recession

in fact, the great progressive hero Cesar Chavez called for exactly this remedy to unemployment among US citizens in the agricultural industry. Cesar himself called up the INS and directed them to kick out of the country specific undocumented workers Cesar knew about.

So perhaps the progressives and liberals of today should consider following Cesar's example.

Sunday, 27 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha Ha -

Reich and his highly educated elite progressive friends enjoy their "undocumented" nannies and housekeepers and gardeners too much.

Progressive politics end at home.

What do you expect "progressives" to do - pay a living wage to us citizens for this sort of work?

Don't make me laugh - on this one issue the progressives and the country club set are on the same side.

Reich doesn't even pretend to not be a hypocrite on this issue

Sunday, 27 January, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Broke Guy,
Don't fear your future, just work hard to keep your job. If your house is 40 years old, it should be paid off, right? If your car has 140K miles on it it should be paid off, right?
If you are getting back more taxes than you pay, your $26K a year means you are bringing home at least $2000 a month. Get a grip on your budget, man! Cut out the booze, bars and broads for starters.

Don't mean to offend. But you can live well on your income. Don't look for excuses to do otherwise.

Monday, 28 January, 2008  
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anonymous 2:21:

Jesus! You financial analysis skills would appear wanting.

Tuesday, 29 January, 2008  
Anonymous Jackson Wallace said...

uh, Dummy, it wasn't liberals who let wall street go nuts and sell the middle class down the river, though I have to admit that the Clinton DLC dems did join the predictably selfish Republicans. So I can't say the Dems were pure, but I find it hilarious that after decades of Repubs shouting about how they need to have power, when they get it they screw up on every level from foreign to economic policy. yeah, I do have a superior attitude towards you bozo yokels voting against your own self interest because you bought the propoganda of the country club elites that are laughing at you behind your back. And no, pal, I dont have any credit card debt, and I'm one of the few in this country with quite a lot in savings. Same old idiotic assumptions from that same old stupid repubs.

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Anonymous kayxyz said...

For art: my husband tried the shortest biotech course about 4-5 years ago, accomplished absolutely nothing. He and I attended the shortest biotech courses, and two different community colleges and netted zero. The biotech at the time was extremely focused on people who had lost jobs via tobacco farming and the Golden Leaf buyout.

You are correct. North Carolina does have an exceptional entry-friendly community college set up, if a person has enough money, say 50K+ and credit card space. On the exit end, offshoring is still a huge obstacle, as are some other factors. BTW, for Dr. Reich, I appreciate your lecture recently at NCSU. I didn't hear in advance and have micro class two nights a week; otherwise, I would have tried to attend. The NC PBS station ran an excerpt last night. I listened with great interest as you delineated globalization and software.

My son is attending an NC community college part-time. My husband and I visited the NC state solar house and he may investigate further their alternative energy-solar-biofuels offerings because NCSU McKimmon Center is a reasonable commute from where we live. We keep eyes open for his next career; he really likes investing and managing our small retirement account, given his math ability.

Saturday, 02 February, 2008  
Blogger Art A Layman said...

kayxyz:

Was not suggesting community college as further retraining or career altering. Was suggesting a job teaching. The education and work experience which your husband has acquired is certainly not antiquated. His knowledge and skills are still viable in the current climate, even though his chosen profession has incurred setbacks. Is not there some applicability to curriculums being offered by community colleges?

Further reading between the lines would lead to a conclusion that you are located in Raleigh. Our worlds drift ever closer to collision.

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Wednesday, 19 March, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to everyone, this is my final statement to you, and especially
Social Security: you can all go fuck yourselves, I hope all of you suffer 10
times the shit I've been through in the last five years, living like
an animal in this country of plenty, plenty only for the elitist that you try to keep up with.
To all of you, your day will come, and when what you don't want get's here, I
hope you suffer to the maxim degree that is possible, I would like to be here
to see it, but I've had enough, you are all consumed with money, usually at the
expense of others, well what goes around comes around, I know, your saying i
never taken anything from anyone, but you did. Every time you worked doubles so
your company didn't have to hire someone, or got your wife a job where you work,
so you could live a relativity easy life in your out of touch $350,000 home with
all your toys while another family had to struggle working for $5-10 an hour just
to eat and live in a getto environment, you feed into the sports frenzy by supporting people
who get $millions to play a game, while others in this land of plenty lived like
shit. You got double checks every week and went to Wall mart to buy stuff cheep,
made overseas, you brought foreign cars to save $1 or 2 thousand on a $30,000 car
and killed the job markets in this country,
in effect, you,like the politicians are all guilty of treason for your own
advantage. Well all you greedy MF will pay sooner or later, I'd love to be here
to laugh when it happens, but I've grown weary of having to live this way.
That's right, you played just as big a part in the downfall of the so called
American Dream as any bank or politicians because there was never enough for
you to be happy.
Now nothing is made in this country anymore, job's evaporate to Mexico,
China and any other foreign country's to save you, the high paid double earners
money so you can have more toys.I guess the main theme here is "GREED", but you
might want to think about this for a while, the real looser's are going to be
your kid's because of your excessive living.

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Anonymous Auntie Sez said...

I would love to know how Wall Street would function if given the same proportionate "assistance" the average American receives from his/her government when living on the Federal and State Minimum Wage, is unemployed, is uninsured, is injured at work, is dependent on Social Security for their sole monthly income, etc. I think that would be very educational for all of us (wicked grin).

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous waiting for a better answer said...

I look forward to your updating your blog re the current kerfuffle.
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