Why the Fed's Wall Street Bailouts Won't Work
So now the New York Fed is bailing out Bear Stearns. Earlier, Bernanke's Fed created an unprecedented $200 billion lending fund to Wall Street, offering Treasury securities in exchange for mortgage-backed securities. And there's talk of further Fed bailouts of Wall Street.
These bailouts won't work because the Street’s big banks are still sitting on what may be another three to four hundred billion dollars of bad debt. The rest of the world economy, through the magic of securitization, may be sitting on another few hundred billion. And because no one knows precisely how much or where this bad debt is, the risk premium is even higher. Which is why credit markets will remain more or less frozen.
We won’t be out of this mess until the speculative bubble that was created when the Fed cut slashed interest rates six years ago fully pops. For that to happen, Wall Street will have to face its real losses and write off another several hundred billion. And home owners across America will have to face their losses and watch the value of their houses drop another 10 percent, about to where they were before the bubble.
The Fed bailing out the big banks is like someone with an helium tank blowing more air into a leaky balloon. It only postpones the inevitable, which is that the balloon will lose its air and float back to earth. For markets to work again, speculative bubbles have to burst, one way or another.
The immediate practical question is how to manage the burst. A Wall Street bailout can help avoid runs on banks and runs on the dollar -- but only if conditioned on Wall Street pricing its assets close to their real market values.
The next question is how to cushion the blow for middle and lower-income people who might lose their homes or their jobs, cars, medical insurance, and large chunks of their pensions. This may require federally-subsidized insurance -- mortgage insurance so homeowners can meet payments, along with expanded unemployment insurance, health insurance, maybe even pension insurance. All hard to accomplish, but ultimately more important than bailing out the big banks.
These bailouts won't work because the Street’s big banks are still sitting on what may be another three to four hundred billion dollars of bad debt. The rest of the world economy, through the magic of securitization, may be sitting on another few hundred billion. And because no one knows precisely how much or where this bad debt is, the risk premium is even higher. Which is why credit markets will remain more or less frozen.
We won’t be out of this mess until the speculative bubble that was created when the Fed cut slashed interest rates six years ago fully pops. For that to happen, Wall Street will have to face its real losses and write off another several hundred billion. And home owners across America will have to face their losses and watch the value of their houses drop another 10 percent, about to where they were before the bubble.
The Fed bailing out the big banks is like someone with an helium tank blowing more air into a leaky balloon. It only postpones the inevitable, which is that the balloon will lose its air and float back to earth. For markets to work again, speculative bubbles have to burst, one way or another.
The immediate practical question is how to manage the burst. A Wall Street bailout can help avoid runs on banks and runs on the dollar -- but only if conditioned on Wall Street pricing its assets close to their real market values.
The next question is how to cushion the blow for middle and lower-income people who might lose their homes or their jobs, cars, medical insurance, and large chunks of their pensions. This may require federally-subsidized insurance -- mortgage insurance so homeowners can meet payments, along with expanded unemployment insurance, health insurance, maybe even pension insurance. All hard to accomplish, but ultimately more important than bailing out the big banks.
posted by Robert Reich | 11:27 AM
51 Comments:
Prof. Reich,
I've felt that the stock market has been seriously out of whack, way more than 10%, since the 1980s when it rose under Reagan to 2700, only to collapse to 1700, then climbed to 6-7 times that amount in just the next two decades. I know we experienced a technological revolution in those decades, but have we really increased the productivity and company earnings 6-7 times?
Our "way of life" seems to have been artificially kept afloat by one money scheme after another: tax-preferenced LBOs, capital gains treatment for "private equity" takeovers, the Savings and Loan deregulation bubble, the overbuilt Internet Boom, the Consumer Debt boom, and most recently the Real Estate lending boom. We increasingly transferred the cost of living wages, health benefits, and retirement savings from employers like WalMart to employees (who are increasingly treated as "independent contractors" and "consultants") and ultimately to the Social Safety Net financed by the National Debt.
We no longer make much in this country, and increasingly we earn too little to buy what we do make. Isn't the End Game in sight?
MDNY
I feel like this is captialism. If a business is too big to let fail without screwing up the economy then it is a monopoly and should be broken up. If it's not, then let it fail. That was supposedly the whole point of capitalism. The reason we could screw the workers, and let them drown. Because supposedly there'd be a better job for them. Well, hopefully there will be better banks that will learn from the mistakes of the current banks once they no longer exist. That's real capitalism.
Our current system of big government backed companies smacks a bit of communism to me.
Why should we bail out people who took out mortgages they can't afford? Many of us still rent as we prudently passed on high risk mortgages. Will we too be "bailed out" so that we can now afford a house?
People who can no longer afford their mortgage payments will end up renting - just like those of us who chose not to buy.
The thing being ignored is that the loses being taken by the big financial firms are not due to the poor homeowner who can't meet his mortgage payments. That was the spark, but the kindling is called leverage.
This is what brought down the stock market in 1929. Buying on margin exposes the investor to a loss that is larger than their original capital. In the case of a home, there is the collateral of the home for the lender to fall back on. Even if there is a rash of foreclosures, a steady unwinding of the positions would not produce excessive losses by the banks.
But, what has happened, as illustrated by the collapse of Carlyle Capital, is that firms were gambling with money they didn't have, and there were no assets to cover the positions. Carlyle gambled at a ratio of 32 times its capital. In 1929 gamblers were restricted to gambling at a maximum of ten times their capital.
After that fiasco more stringent margin requirements were imposed, and currently stand at 50% for stocks. That means one can only speculate with twice one's capital.
Look at the difference. Say your stock goes down by 10% and the broker asks for additional capital which you can't provide. He sells your stock, gets his money back and you get back 80% of your investment. Bad, but not fatal.
Now look at Carlyle, the investment goes down by 10%. The bank sells and gets back $90 for every $97 they invested. The Carlyle investors get back zero. Everybody loses. If the investors can't claim bankruptcy they are still liable for the remaining $7 owed to the banks. In other words they lost three times their original investment.
Who caused the avalanche? The poor homeowner, or the speculators? Who is getting bailed out by the Federal Reserve - Bear Stearns, not John Q. Public.
Robert Reich is correct that the Fed won't be able to fix this, but congress may be able to. That's what happens when things go too far, whether in 1929, or the Savings and Loan collapse.
The wealthy will suffer a "haircut", the public will pay for the clean up. In this case the path will probably be a continuation of the current inflation and dollar devaluation. This will leave everyone of modest means poorer.
This may require federally-subsidized insurance -- mortgage insurance so homeowners can meet payments
Home affordability is at an all time low.
I'm livid that you, or anyone else, would offer to use my tax dollars to keep prices high.
If people "lose their homes" (*) they don't become homeless. They become renters. And frankly, most of the people who are going to lose their homes in the next two years should have stayed renters in the first place.
Keeping these people in their homes will keep prices high, keep homes unaffordable, and directly hurt everyone who knew that the last two years were really bad for homebuying.
Only letting home prices fall will restore restore affordability. Stop trying to interfere with that, and harm the frugal, the prudent, and people just starting families. And using my tax dollars to do it.
If you really want to help people, start jobs programs, and increase unemployment insurance, but let home prices fall.
(*) If someone bought a home with 0% down, it was never their house - it was always the banks. Saying that it was their house is just sophistry.
I believe it will be the new McCain administration that will inherit this mess.
Hillary was always unelectable and Obama was electable only on the margins. If you think gender and race are influencing the dems primary, wait until the general and see how ugly and divisive these will be.
Let's face it folks a black or a woman will not be elected due to just-below-the-surface rampant racism and sexism. Sorry folks California and New York won't be enough. Racial and gender attitudes are far different when you head to the middle of the country and to the south. Same old red state/blue state dichotomy.
Prepare yourselves for John McCain because he will win.
Obama was always marginally electable but Hillary has demolished any hope for that with her "kitchen sink" strategy.
Hillary is unelectable for numerous reasons not the least of which is her gender, baggage and personality.
Nationalize the banks as they fail. Throw an army of accountants and lawyers at the financial records. Jail every marginally shady banker you can convict. Hand the rest a set of rules they can follow, and run them as not-for-profit enterprises. Institute a small tax on stock trades, and a much larger tax on dividends.
If we can manage to plan our way to the moon, and plan military logistic needs for years in the future, and Walmart can plan its international distribution system, we can plan (non-centrally) our economy quite well.
This may require federally-subsidized insurance -- mortgage insurance so homeowners can meet payments
More bailout talk, his is what years of gov't experience has created in our leadership circles. Robert and Jim both bring up great points, nothing wrong with renting and maybe the Democrat machine politics can get off this unproductive "American Dream Housing for Everybody" and start shaping a economic model that is not based on luxury consumer spending supported by debt.
Dr. Reich said:
"And home owners across America will have to face their losses and watch the value of their houses drop another 10 percent, about to where they were before the bubble."
The home owners across America have been doing a bit of serial refi activity with their home the past 10 years so even drops of 10% can wipe out the equity value of large numbers of Americans whether they live in fly over or coastal locations. Most of these folks also have 2nd's and equity line's of credit attached to the home which they have largely spent.
So your idea that the gov't provide some sort of monthly pay out so that millions of Americans who have raided their home equity and spent it on who knows what, should now be given some sort of free pass by the gov't?
Dr. Reich, we need to get back to a mim of 3x income for home pricing which means an end to the gov't programs that force up the price of homes through tax incentives, GSE financing and other gov't programs which try and shoehorn folks into homeownership.
I'm tired of being fleeced. Is their anyone left in Washington who is still working for the interests of the citizens?
Sorry, meant is *there* anyone.
Is [there] anyone left in Washington who is still working for the interests of the citizens?
Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, and the postal workers.
Should we call it the Clinton Depression? What would Nobel winner Stiglitz say about this?
Congress (with the Republicans in control) and President Clinton in the WHite Houe, were more than happy to eliminate the last barriers of separation between investment (speculation/hedging) and commercial (main street) banking.
It might be a stretch to blame it on legislative events in 1999 (but it rhymes with 1929). Capitalism without regulation is like giving Gordon Gecko his own ATM machine without any house limits.
How much leverage should we allow? 30 to 1? We watched LTCM prove that "black swans" emerge despite the best minds (modeling experts) claiming that you can't have a failure... until they do. And now we discover that CDOs are so toxic (risky) that they can bring down the world's financial system in a mere matter of months.
After reading "When Genius Failed" a few years ago, I was convinced then that our banking system was fatally flawed and destined to fail. You simply cannot prevent or contain the risks of speculation and greed without a strong regulatory counterbalance to protect main street's assets. But here we are at the brink of disaster in a repeat of LTCM but now on a truly global scale with a failing currency.
If there is anyone in Congress or the White House who can explain how CDOs work, I want to meet them because no one in the banking industry has a clue as evidenced by their massive losses.
And beyond CDOs, what are the sorcerers' apprentices up to now?
RSL
Palo Alto, CA
might require subsidized PMI???? What do you think FHA is? Of course FHA hasn't admitted that it's subsidized - you won't see that happen until the next annual accounting is done in October. But it is indeed subsidized.
Dear Dr. Reich,
The structural problem behind the housing meltdown, credit card and home equity default excesses lies
in the incredibly poor Government and Bank regulations and oversight of system's lending practices.
It's impossible to get a home mortgage loan in Holland unless there is solid confirmation of a firm employment contract and icome level; that one's after tax income (NET of all other debt obligations) is at least 3 times the annual mortgage payment assuming a fixed long-term interest rate. If the borrower can't meet these rules, the only choices are to look for a cheaper home and/or put 10-15% cash down on the property purchase price, or continue renting.
In addition, most banks will advise client to purchase mortgage insurance in the event of job loss or other unexpected financial shock. Banks will also invariably insist on an independent assessment of property's market value and will base loan terms on lowest of market value or assessed value.
Very mportantly, regional governmental authorities construct lots of decent affordable housing for home starters and others whose income levels do not meet lending requirements for properties priced under pure market conditions.
As mentioned, all banks here have a main data base of all personal loan obligations of a client no matter what type or where they come from. So the full credit picture is strictly obtained as part of the home loan application review and final loan contract or non-contract.
Obviously, the loan process requires submission of tax returns and bank statement showing after tax income deposits to one's bank account.
In all my 25 years in Holland, believe me when I say that I've never heard of any newsworthy event or publications of high home foreclosures. They're essentially a non-event due to rather prudent lending and borrowing practices. And, of course, if a person losses his job, the Dutch Safety Net kicks in for a reasonable period until that person is re-employed.
Also, the banks themselves are controlled for their Risk Management practices by the authoritiies. Not surprisingly, again, banks here like ABN-AMRO and ING (both with offices in NY)had very modest losses as result of the sub-prime lending disaster.
Having worked as a training consultant within ING, I have been utterly impressed with the tenacity and fierce, objective professionalism they bring to implementing and enforcing daily at all levels strong Risk Management formal review processes.
When will we ever learn in America? Do any of you recall the real estate-banking losses in 1990
amounting to over $300 billion? We as taxpayers are still paying for that bill which is over $500 billion including interest. We also got this money by selling U.S. Treasury securities to Europeand Japan.
When will we ever learn to control an almost cultural, narcisistic greed and irresponsibility in the bank and personal financing area?
Frank Thomas, The Netherlands
Dear Dr. Reich,
Correction 3rd paragraph, last sentence: should read "purchase price or assessed market value."
Funny how Spitzer was exposed right when he was filing suit against these predatory lenders.
Here's a short part of what Greg Palast wrote on this subject;
http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot-spitzer-gets-nailed/
When the housing bubble burst and the paint flaked off, investors were left with the poop and the bankers were left with bonuses. Countrywide’s top man, Angelo Mozilo, will ‘earn’ a $77 million buy-out bonus this year on top of the $656 million - over half a billion dollars – he pulled in from 1998 through 2007.
But there were rumblings that the party would soon be over. Angry regulators, burned investors and the weight of millions of homes about to be boarded up were causing the sharks to sink. Countrywide’s stock was down 50%, and Citigroup was off 38%, not pleasing to the Gulf sheiks who now control its biggest share blocks.
Then, on Wednesday of this week, the unthinkable happened. Carlyle Capital went bankrupt. Who? That’s Carlyle as in Carlyle Group. James Baker, Senior Counsel. Notable partners, former and past: George Bush, the Bin Laden family and more dictators, potentates, pirates and presidents than you can count.
The Fed had to act. Bernanke opened the vault and dumped $200 billion on the poor little suffering bankers. They got the public treasure – and got to keep the Grinning’s house. There was no ‘quid’ of a foreclosure moratorium for the ‘pro quo’ of public bailout. Not one family was saved – but not one banker was left behind.
Dear Dr. Reich,
I have written the Obama campaign suggesting you should be hired as an economic consultant... it needs someone with your credentials and understanding of the Milton Friedman destruction of our economy. Someone has got to pick up the Edwards mantle, as we supporters are waiting....
Dianne Foster, Dem PCO
When a home owner has less than 20% of equity, they must pay PMI (Private mortgage Insurance). How come no one has talked about these insurance companies and the burden they must be facing?
DO you think it's time to re-evaluate the method of calculating GDP? The USA has changed considerably since this gauge was developed. We're now more of a service organization and I don't feel that the watching GDP is a good indicator of a recession anymore.
THanks
Jay Johnson
Dear Dr. Reich,
With respect for your question,
"Why the Fed's Wall Street Bailouts Won't Work," may I offer my final Part III commentary in response.
The pervasiveness and scale of the U.S. credit crunch makes it highly improbable the Fed's monetary "pump
priming and interest rate reductions" will reverse very soon a sharp slowdown in consumer confidence and spending, and collapsing value of the Dollar. One must remain optimistic. The financial house has not sunk yet, but it is in need of a major overhaul -- not stop-gap, band aid
actions that fail to address the
unique depth of this crisis.
This is because, unlike past similar serious economic shocks or slowdowns, today's excessive credit crisis has deep, far reaching proportions including not only sub-prime disastrous lending practices but also ominously rising level of debt and defaults related to:
(a) normal mortgage loans
(b) credit card craze
(c) home equity loans
(d) automobile loans
(e) even commercial loans
... all creating a crisis of cash
unavailabilty on a grand scale never before seen -- right when oil/commodity prices are exploding.
And, of course the weaking Dollar, is encouraging the foreign oil powers to further escalate oil prices to maintain their obscene cashflow levels. So the pain is compounded.
Bush's fiscal stimulus and the Fed's monetary bailout can't match this diverse scale of consumer and bank illiquidity. The problem is not just temporarily Sinking Illiquidity but a broad societal drain on cash more realisticly being a Rising Insolvency (thus, the recent rash of personal, bank and other lending institution bankruptcies). A major cause of all this is an unsustainable Economic Model (a model at its limits)of: consume, consume...
... borrow, borrow... lower, lower taxes/interest rates with ... NO SAVINGS (combined with incredibly weak, non-transparent unethical-if not illegal- lending practices).
It took Japan over 12 years to begin to climb out of such a self-destructive economic paradigm, and their progress is still a little anemic at the time of this writing.
So we've got a lot of pain, major reforms, reporting transparency, and style of living changes to absorb before we can eventually extracate ourselves out of the self-inflicted financial mess we're in. This will take time.
Until we get realistic and serious about the financial system's inherent flaws, and get down to a pragmatic set of well integrated near-term and long-term reforms/actions (suggested in different ways by yourself and others), then America will remained trapped in a system totally lacking in transparency, proper Risk Management controls, and objective, consistent, non-politisized Federal and State Government oversight.
Frank Thomas
Frank-thomas: Good ideas, just a reminder that human nature trumps all other considerations. Japan is a good yardstick for us since it shows how unwilling the political and social fabric of the society was in facing up to the overvaluation of its RE. It was impossible in 1990 for them to face the fact that RE values would decline up to 80% in most area's and 60% in downtown Tokyo but slowly over 15 years the reality finally arrived.
Its highly unlikely that Americans politically and socially will accept the coming deflation of their RE assets nor willingly give up their happy motoring, luxury consumer driven lifestyle anytime soon.
The political leadership such as Dr. Reich will be needed to provide a road map but it increasingly looks like politic's as usually with the two political parties pointing at each other and falling back into very predicatable economic solutions that no longer have any viability in this world.
Wonderful ideas, I wish you were President, or could call him and advise him!
"Americans politically and socially will [not] accept the coming deflation of their RE assets nor their consumer driven lifestyle anytime soon"
If we must retain lifestyle, how will we do this? Dumping 401k plans will only go so far.
Luz, Adelia's Closet said...
"When a home owner has less than 20% of equity, they must pay PMI (Private mortgage Insurance). How come no one has talked about these insurance companies and the burden they must be facing?"
Most people who bought with zero down took out a second mortgage for 20% of the appraised value of the house which kept them from having to pay PMI. The housing prices went up so fast that even those that did put down less than 20% and did pay PMI got their homes re-appraised shortly after the 6 month waiting period and were able to get the PMI dropped because the house was now worth much more than they paid for it.
A lot of smoke and mirrors schemes also negated the need for PMI.
"If we must retain lifestyle, how will we do this? Dumping 401k plans will only go so far"
The FED's initial attempt is via lower interest rates, these will go to Zero and below adjusted for inflation. The FED is also trying some old depression era bank liquidy injections and straight bail outs which also are not working.
Next of course is our Gov't which thinks passing out money, via lower tax rates and soon to be at your door the latest gov't hand out which they had to borrow in order to generate the funds to stimulate the economy will be repeated many times with always the same result.
Most likely this all will result in most countries getting rid of the greenback as the World Reserve Currency and moving to a basket currency approach which will force the US to raise interest rates, bring back the troops from every corner of the globe and begin to grow up and take on a more responsible international posture. In the mean time get use to a Duct Tape financial world driven by petty two party political B.S. and a ever lower living standard for the American Society.
Just announced the Bear buyout by JP for $2 bucks a share. Complete wipeout for the IB's, a true mark to market momement for these guys. FED lowers discount rate and gives PD more rope via lending on MBS bonds which are really worth pennies on the dollar but we can all pretend otherwise but the taxpayer will wind up footing the bill all this financial mojo. The Duct Tape American fincancial's continue.
The Professor foretold that it would be either snap or snap back. Today, March 16, it definitely looks like it's going to be snap
Who was in the White House in 1999? Who was our Secretary of the Treasury back then? Who ran the Fed? Who bailed out LTCM? Who signed the vestiges of Depression Era banking oversight away?
Clinton, Rubin, Greenspan, Wall Street and the Republican Congress.
The Depression is here if you're a homeowner or a Wall Street employee working for one of the many hedge funds and investment banks that placed all these CDO bets at various casinos around the globe.
Folks, this problem isn't going away soon. It's going to impact all of us for the next ten years or more. We've effectively marginalized our childrens' futures with our greed and hubris. What will history say about the Roaring 90s?
Where is Roosevelt when we need him or her?
RS in Palo Alto, CA
It's SO grim. And will get worse.
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As for a bailout for homeowners, what about:
1) Placing a moratorium on bankruptcies;
2) Setting up rules for people & banks getting squeezed by ARM's, Jumbos, etc., that require the bank refinance at the amount they would have made from selling after foreclosure, and keeping payments at one-third the borrower's gross monthly income;
3) Putting a big ding on the borrower's credit score, but keeping them in the house.
These rules would keep down the number of people looking to rent or buy with bankruptcy on their record, which drives down borrowing, rents, and housing prices in the long run. It also would give banks about the same amount of money they would have recieved had they taken back the house, paid taxes on it and tried to re-sell. Last, it would slow the fall of housing prices, because it would end the vicious cycle of foreclosed houses bringing down the neighborhood's value.
Josh, why do you care what happens to banks? Is that the -goal-?
Mr Dewhirst, as the banks fail, a crisis of "confidence" will develop (and quickly spread), which you can see the tip of already in both the markets, in foreign investment, and in consumer spending. Retrenchment, fear, and then panic.
The last time a major crisis of confidence in US finance occurred, there were bank runs, closures, government intervention, and 30%+ unemployment. No one wants a repeat of that.
Capitalist terrorism.
I asked what the goal here is.
If it is for people to be solvent, to have homes... then what was proposed is contrary to those aims.
I think we should bring back the RTC and FIRREA.
There were many positives to that S&L bailout and many people were able to get into homes they could afford - not homes they wanted maybe but heck, don't we all WANT a bigger better hme - with little fuss.
I worked with the bailout from 1990 to 1995 and saw much joy in the liquidation of the REO from the failed S&Ls.
Mr. Dewhirst,
My suggestions are to keep people in homes and keep banks from driving down the value of neighborhoods. My biggest concern is to make sure people aren't homeless with bankruptcies on their records, as this makes it very difficult for them to get even rental places in safe neighborhoods. It also causes many social problems, and drives up the cost of rent. My second concern is with bank-owned homes blighting neighborhoods. Banks need to understand that they will lose a ton of money on a bankruptcy, so why not rework an agreement with the current occupant? But "reworking" means taking a huge hit on the bottom line, as big a hit as they would have taken in trying to sell it after repossession. Or worse.
Let's be honest here. Many, many people who jumped into the housing market did so to make a lot of money, banks and individual buyers alike. Getting out of the subsequent bubble is going to be a painful mess, and everybody involved is unfortunately going to take a hit. Better that they take a hit, but still keep their homes and some semblance of revenue. And hey, we still aren't Haiti.
As for your solvency comment: For folks to be solvent they must have assets over liabilities. Loans are the opposite of solvency. Fight for living wages and true solvency, and not the fake riches that come from a re-fi. Many became complacent with substandard wages by just believing they could cash in by selling the house they still live in. And this process just drives up housing prices for everybody else. It is illusory, and as we've seen with the current crisis, does not promote solvency.
Tangentially, I would be absolutely overjoyed to see usury laws come back, and the end of ARM's, jumbos, etc. "Predatory lending" is awful, and unlawful, and can be fought much more effectively with actual caps on interest, and including "fees" in the total interest.
Josh, if that is your biggest concern, what are we to do with all the people who can't pay their debts and can't declare bankrupsy?
Nationalize the banks as they fail, nationalize the homes before people have to declare bankrupsy on them, and then rent them to the tenants at an affordable price.
If the real goal is homes and clean credit records, then let us pursue homes and clean credit records.
You were proposing -stopping- bankrupsies, so it doesn't sound like there would be much to stop banks from squeezing harder and harder (until people start killing themselves, of course.)
If we had properly taxed those with all this excess income, we wouldn't be worrying about bubbles, now would we?
Better that they keep -a- home... and if the rest are nationalized and rented at low rates to the pre-existing homeless, that deals nicely with the speculators.
Footnote: When the government imminent domains a home, they take the mortgage as well.
Mr. Dewhirst,
I did not say I was pursuing clean credit scores. I don't mind if people are considered more of a credit risk because they made poor choices in taking on additional debt. I just don't think it's in society's best interest to have large numbers of folks with bankruptcies and no places to live. In fact, when people can't depend on huge, cumbersome loans to "live", then they may begin to focus on better wages. One can only hope.
If we artificially clean up credit scores, we then say that it was okay for folks to take on too much debt, and that it was okay for banks to prey on people's fears and imaginations by offering bad loans.
As for your nationalization proposal, I cringe at a Bush Administration with control over people's very homes. Are you truly suggesting that Bush own my domicile? Or the bank?!? And, if you mean that the government would hold the title until folks paid off the mortgage, well that sounds to me like the rest of us having to pay for the mistakes of people AND banks playing the market. I don't doubt for a second that the majority of CEO's involved in this mess are going to get off the hook. Why, then, send a signal to the market that we'll just buy your bad choices?
Better that people understand that their mistakes have hurt them and many, many more, while still maintaining the basic needs of life, a home. A good credit score is not a basic need. Again, look at Haiti to see basic needs.
Also, Mr. Dewhirst, if it helps, then allow bankruptcies. I have no problem with the name, or the ability for people who find themselves unable to pay off their total debts. Its foreclosures I'm worried about. I understand your concern for folks who can't pay all their debts. I'm saying, put a moratorium on foreclosures, let people renegotiate with with the bank for a price more commensurate with what the bank would have gotten had it foreclosed, then had to resell (including the costs it would have incurred for reselling: taxes, upkeep, closing costs, agent fees, etc.).
Josh, if you'd care to provide an internet video demonstrating how one pulls oneself up by one's own bootstraps, then I'm willing to believe that ending bankruptcy will promote wage growth.
This 'tough love' neoliberal BS needs to be thrown out the window.
If a house is about to be foreclosed on, then it is preferable an accountable government take ownership of it as compared to an unaccountable (or only-accountable-to-profits) bank.
I didn't say the government would -pay- the mortgage, I said it would -take- the mortgage (and then, nullify it and charge whomever lives there rent, and still later, offer it up for sale.) If banks fail because their mortgages are unsound, then they are nationalized as well.
I'm a bit confused as to your update, as the -first- think you suggested was stopping bankruptcies. I'm glad to see you've come around, but am puzzled as to why you think bankruptcies and foreclosures are somehow linked.
It's too easy to throw around little words to encapsulate arguments, but they don't further discourse or real solutions. Using terms like "BS" and "neoliberal" may be fun and feel good, but I was under the impression that this was a place of intellectual investigation. And though I don't mind your disagreements with me, it seems as if you may have reached the end of your argument, if you must resort to name-calling.
That said, my proposal is not a purely capitalist one. It is a way to address the serious problems arising from the housing crisis while putting the responsibility for such clearly in the hands of those responsible.
You then argue about the future of a house forclosed, while I say, don't foreclose on them.
Read carefully my previous posts:
Especially note the place where I say that the bank that owns the house must agree to allow the borrower to renegotiate the price of the loan, and that this price must fall under the price the house would have sold, minus expenses; also that the monthly payment must be under 1/3 of the borrowers gross monthly income.
These aren't difficult to measure, and they are as fair to both parties as should be allowed considering the amount of speculation that occurred in this market. Both take a hit, one on the credit score, one in the wallet. As for the link to bankruptcies and foreclosures, they are often tied together. When I think of bankruptcy, I think of the long-term implications of such on one's ability to acquire a place to live. I see that you think of it as a way for folks to get out of horrible conditions, which is true at the beginning. In the long-run, however, bankrupted folks now are set up to fall prey to many unscrupulous lenders. I'm saying, folks unable to pay mortgages are now forced to have bad credit AND no home. Of the two to be fixed, I say fix the home problem, and don't fix the credit problem so much. That can be taken care of in time, so long as they aren't forced out of their home, they will tend to be okay. Homeless people have it much worse than people with bad credit and homes.
I won't bicker over defining terms like tough love or neoliberalism. I just want people to get to keep their homes, while also ending the silly indebtedness we as a nation have come to depend upon.
If we are such free market capitalists and so obsessed with blaming the mortgage owner for their shortsightedness, then we should not bail out Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers or anyone else for that matter either.
Banks have been even more shortsighted than mortgage owners, let them fail! Any free market system should not buoy up an organization that is poorly managed.
All this administration cares about is big business interests, and it shows.
Thank you Bernanke, for absolutely destroying my interest rates on my CD investments with your stupid Fed rate cuts, which of course will do nothing.
Penalizing the saver will not get us out of this mess, just make less capital available to banks and their position will be even more tenuous.
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What is your "way of life"?
Wake up and enjoy every minute. Some of us live a quiet life and will keep it that way.
Surely most know that greed caused
this situation and where does that come from?
I am not too interested in watching the lifestyle of the rick and famous but do enjoy my own family and neighbors.
Prof Reich, I am that part of
the lower middle class you
wish to bury. I don't own a
home because I never felt I
would be able to afford a
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All of my thirty years of working
and some inheritance money I receivd is locked in a diversified portfolio of stocks and mutual funds that are down around 50% in a matter of a few months that took
20 years to build. That money
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Steve Forbes, suggestions could
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but hard working Americans who
invested in American businesses by
buying stocks and mutual funds.
The investments I made were
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Millions of Americans with
retirement money in stocks,
are Main Street Americans, think
of us too. One example is a fund,
I have been paying yearly taxes
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With all the taxes I have paid
I am in the red about 50%. Please
don't let my retirement be in the
poor house.
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