The Real Source of Gladiator Politics
I was on television recently, debating a conservative. It's something I do fairly often. During a commercial break, the producer spoke into my earpiece. "A bit more energy," he said.
"What do you mean?" I answered, slightly hurt. I thought I'd been doing a fairly good job scoring points.
"Rip into him. Only three minutes in the next segment and we want to make the most of it."
John McCain says he's intent on waging a respectful and civil presidential campaign. Barack Obama says the same. Is it possible that during the months leading up to this Election Day the American people will be treated to the kind of campaign we've all been dreaming about, in which the two candidates debate the big issues and avoid the low blows?
We've grown so accustomed to gutter politics we've even turned it into verbs -- "to bork" (to impugn one's opponent's character), "to swiftboat" (to lie about a critical fact in one's opponent's biography), and, perhaps, "to reverend wright" (to create the impression that one's opponent shares a set of beliefs with a person he has associated with).
All three require a relentless attack that feeds on itself. Unproven allegations are repeated so often that the attack itself becomes news, as does the manner in which the target responds, after which point the question becomes whether the attack has hurt its target and, if so, whether the damage is fatal. The target is then watched for any signs of personal distress, defensiveness, or anger. Can the target take it? Will the target recant, backtrack, cover up, apologize, reveal more, disassociate himself, go on a counter-attack? What does the target's response tell us about his or her character? The story then shifts to the media -- are they continuing to report it? Are they being responsible in doing so? And after this self-referential orgy, the story moves to the polls -- is the public losing confidence in the candidate? In the days or weeks this goes on, the target has no opportunity to talk about anything other than the attack, and the public hears about nothing else, so the target’s polls may fall, which creates the final story: Can the target ever come back?
Character assassination, outright lies, and guilt by association are hardly new to American politics. Aaron Burr, New York City Parks Commissioner Robert Moses, Senator Joe McCarthy, and J. Edgar Hoover were avid practitioners. But the modern media, coupled more recently with the blogosphere and YouTube, have made these kinds of attacks even more potent. Political consultants -- those snakelike creatures who slither through the swamps and sinkholes of politics -- have turned all three into low-brow but highly lucrative art forms, cynically valued by the media for their effectiveness. And so-called “527’s -- the headless and mysterious bodies that grow in the interstices of our election laws -- have become their launching pads. In the logic of this underworld, "going negative" is no longer considered a campaign option; it is a necessity. Although it may injure the perpetrator (if it can ever be traced back), it will cause greater harm to the opponent.
So what are the odds that McCain and Obama will make an historic break with this sordid tradition and take the high road instead? Each man may sincerely wish to do so. Both have based their candidacies, to some extent, on creating a new politics that rejects the gutter-ball tactics of the old. Each has enough ammunition against the other (for every Reverend Wright, a Reverend Haggee; for every "we'll be in Iraq for a hundred years gaffe, a "bitter" one) to suggest the wisdom of mutual arms control. Each is distancing himself from his party’s mud-slinging -- the Republican Party is already airing ads linking Obama to Wright, which McCain is disavowing but not shutting down – thereby putting the candidate on a high road even as the party takes the low. Mostly, though, the public is fed up with the rancor -- isn't it?
I asked the producer who was talking into my earpiece why I had to rip into my opponent. "We see viewership minute by minute," he said, hurriedly (the commercial break was about over). "When you really go after each other, we get a spike."
It's the spike I'm worried about. I chose not to rip into my opponent but, then again, I'm not running for president. The public says it's tired of gladiator politics. But take a closer look. Political ripping and slashing is is one of America's favorite spectator sports. And the media that informs us about the candidates, and the advertisers who dictate the terms by which they do so, have data to prove it.
"What do you mean?" I answered, slightly hurt. I thought I'd been doing a fairly good job scoring points.
"Rip into him. Only three minutes in the next segment and we want to make the most of it."
John McCain says he's intent on waging a respectful and civil presidential campaign. Barack Obama says the same. Is it possible that during the months leading up to this Election Day the American people will be treated to the kind of campaign we've all been dreaming about, in which the two candidates debate the big issues and avoid the low blows?
We've grown so accustomed to gutter politics we've even turned it into verbs -- "to bork" (to impugn one's opponent's character), "to swiftboat" (to lie about a critical fact in one's opponent's biography), and, perhaps, "to reverend wright" (to create the impression that one's opponent shares a set of beliefs with a person he has associated with).
All three require a relentless attack that feeds on itself. Unproven allegations are repeated so often that the attack itself becomes news, as does the manner in which the target responds, after which point the question becomes whether the attack has hurt its target and, if so, whether the damage is fatal. The target is then watched for any signs of personal distress, defensiveness, or anger. Can the target take it? Will the target recant, backtrack, cover up, apologize, reveal more, disassociate himself, go on a counter-attack? What does the target's response tell us about his or her character? The story then shifts to the media -- are they continuing to report it? Are they being responsible in doing so? And after this self-referential orgy, the story moves to the polls -- is the public losing confidence in the candidate? In the days or weeks this goes on, the target has no opportunity to talk about anything other than the attack, and the public hears about nothing else, so the target’s polls may fall, which creates the final story: Can the target ever come back?
Character assassination, outright lies, and guilt by association are hardly new to American politics. Aaron Burr, New York City Parks Commissioner Robert Moses, Senator Joe McCarthy, and J. Edgar Hoover were avid practitioners. But the modern media, coupled more recently with the blogosphere and YouTube, have made these kinds of attacks even more potent. Political consultants -- those snakelike creatures who slither through the swamps and sinkholes of politics -- have turned all three into low-brow but highly lucrative art forms, cynically valued by the media for their effectiveness. And so-called “527’s -- the headless and mysterious bodies that grow in the interstices of our election laws -- have become their launching pads. In the logic of this underworld, "going negative" is no longer considered a campaign option; it is a necessity. Although it may injure the perpetrator (if it can ever be traced back), it will cause greater harm to the opponent.
So what are the odds that McCain and Obama will make an historic break with this sordid tradition and take the high road instead? Each man may sincerely wish to do so. Both have based their candidacies, to some extent, on creating a new politics that rejects the gutter-ball tactics of the old. Each has enough ammunition against the other (for every Reverend Wright, a Reverend Haggee; for every "we'll be in Iraq for a hundred years gaffe, a "bitter" one) to suggest the wisdom of mutual arms control. Each is distancing himself from his party’s mud-slinging -- the Republican Party is already airing ads linking Obama to Wright, which McCain is disavowing but not shutting down – thereby putting the candidate on a high road even as the party takes the low. Mostly, though, the public is fed up with the rancor -- isn't it?
I asked the producer who was talking into my earpiece why I had to rip into my opponent. "We see viewership minute by minute," he said, hurriedly (the commercial break was about over). "When you really go after each other, we get a spike."
It's the spike I'm worried about. I chose not to rip into my opponent but, then again, I'm not running for president. The public says it's tired of gladiator politics. But take a closer look. Political ripping and slashing is is one of America's favorite spectator sports. And the media that informs us about the candidates, and the advertisers who dictate the terms by which they do so, have data to prove it.

34 Comments:
"Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people", my father said. I don't agree. We are not stupid, but continually led to engage in the pleasant over the good. It takes discipline to turn away from the sensational--yet that is what we must do if democracy has a chance of survival.
"Without consideration, without pity, without shame
they have built great and high walls around me.
And now I sit here and despair.
I think of nothing else: this fate gnaws at my mind;
for I had many things to do outside.
Ah why did I not pay attention when they were building the walls."
Written in 1896.
Do you suppose your exposing the whispering will effect your getting future invitations to debate? Hope not. Good for you for speaking up. One of these years the media and the more weaselly strategists will realize we're not all operating on our lizard brains. Maybe it even starts this year!
Makes sense for what drives the media, but... consider that big media is turning into a niche market.
They may indeed have the data to prove that people who watch may give a "spike" when the battle begins.
But consider that relatively few Americans take the time to watch.
Also consider that relatively few people take the time to vote.
Maybe that's why.
This will be the "battle by proxy" election, where the candidates show lots of restraint, but their associated supporters get down and dirty. There will be a hundred swiftboat and betray-us campaigns, and every once in a while when it gets too ugly the candidates will specifically condemn them, while still benefiting from the damage done to the opponent.
Good for you. You are much more convincing when you DON'T rip into someone.
-rj40
Robert:
Hope you don't mind if I call you Robert, it's just that we've gotten so close.
You're post reminds me of that infamous line, "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"
You know, as well as many of your readers, that this has been going on since our founding. The only thing that's changed is that like everything else that has continued since our beginnings, we have tooled it, remolded it, honed it and turned it into a science. The one major exception might be governing. We seem to have gone backward toward caveman times with that.
The expansion of the mediums available has, and will continue to, made the practices all too cheap and easy to avoid.
There are segments of our population who comprehend the issues. They have some capacity to decide between to competing policies. They are not the majority of us.
Most of us chose a candidate based on emotions. Normally, once we have decided, or are close, on our selection, any negative ads directed at our choice stir extremely angry reactions. If, or when, our candidate responds in kind, we turn a deaf ear to our vehemence of this sort of campaigning.
What is the biggest criticism of John Kerry's campaign in 2004. He didn't respond quickly enough to the Swiftboat ads. To experienced political minds that response could have been manifested in a myriad of ways. To John Q. Public, the response should have been as down and dirty as the original ads.
To the producer's point; the vast majority of our populace are not adept at nuanced, subtle argument. Many of us don't recognize when you scored a debate point. We want blood, even if only symbolically. We want your opponent buried. Not with finesse but with the hammer. We want him pounded to mush, so that he might never entertain a disagreement with our side again.
We have always been an extremely competitive culture. We thrive on the vicious, dirty tactics of the bad guys. We don't necessarily want them to win with those tactics but we need them to occur to reinforce our insane belief that good will always triumph over evil. The real dirty tricks make it clear to us which one is truly the bad guy.
"Rocky", I think I've said this before, was a huge success, not because he was the good guy and he beat the bad guy, but because he took a merciless beating, dirty by all standards of decency, and yet he triumphed. He overcame the best that his opponent could give and won.
To your point, many of us enjoy the dirty tricks because we want to see our candidate overcome the nastiest behavior his opponent can dish out. We want the purity of our candidate to shine through, even if he has to use the same kind of tactics.
As I predicted, and I am no sage, infused with the wisdom of the ages, Obama is up in arms over the Tennessee GOP running the video clip of Michelle's "proud of America" speech. I'm not sure what his subtle threats imply but he has issued a warning.
You are, of course, correct in that chances are McCain will stay above the fray. He will complain; he will condemn; he will protest that there is no place in American politics for this tripe. All the while, the hand that is out of sight will be urging on his supporters. Beseeching them to listen to GWB and "bring it on".
Maybe one day our politicians will begin to appeal to our intellects. Before that will happen we have to display an intellect to appeal to. As long as we react to the vitriol there is little impetus to change the dialogue and risk guessing wrong.
There are many hundreds of people who choose to avoid certain tv programs because of the nonsense coverage. Thoughtful discourse gains viewers and ultimately benefits our society. Hat's off to you for using your better known name to address an important aspect of our daily lives.
Dr. Reich: Thank you for doing the right thing and sharing the experience here.
The question is, can the first serious black candidate for President do the same thing in the face of a frightened electorate and Republicans who are going to go to the outer limits to humiliate him and bring him down?
I sincerely hope so.
I hope Barack Obama picks you for his cabinet.
...for every "we'll be in Iraq for a hundred years gaffe, a "bitter" one...
Boy, you must've had to wrack your brain to come up with that equivalency. See, the difference is that the "hundred years gaffe" is nothing of the sort. The fact that he earnestly hopes things will be violence-free at some point before 2108 isn't really salient. And pointing it out is nothing like your other examples.
Reality TV has left our culture scarred. And we wonder why there are stories about girls taping and posting beatings online and thinking there is nothing unusual about it.
Please continue to take the high road. Future generations will thank you.
Were you invited back? That'd be the test; if an individual or group stands up to the 'spike', will it have a lasting impact?
Thank you for bringing this subject up. If our media is to be a beacon for the world, now is the time to show it.
Fascinating post, and certainly on point with the basic theme of our for-profit mass media: Television today exists to deliver audiences to advertisers.
The post reminds me, too, of Lippmann's elitist view of those of us in the common class as members of a "bewildered herd" responding only to self-interest. Reich's experience vividly illustrates that the TV folks are merely part of the herd.
Dr. Reich,
"FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR" ... "FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR".
When Siegmund Freud was testing some patients on their willingness to accept his prognosis
of their illnesses ... and they would not listen to or accept his prognosis, he said he got the answer he wanted by employing the old French recipe for such predicaments, "FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR."
When the depraved Satan of Nazi Germany's propaganda machine, Goebbels, was asked what was his secret on how to convince such large numbers of the German people to follow Hitler's politics, he replied in so many words, "By repeating the same refrains OVER and OVER and OVER AGAIN.´´
For at least 30 years now, the U.S. political dialogue and culture has, sadly and perhaps unconsciously, been in the grip of the malignant verbal psychosis of: if you keep Repeating long enough certain untruths, distortions, debasements of the facts or of your opponent's character, large numbers of people will start to believe such garbage. It's a real, often subtle, and effective mental process of indoctrination. What's worst, you start to believe it's justifiable and "all part of the game."
For many, many years, I've watched this dynamic in play at the U.S. political participant level, the party institutional level, and to an enormous degree at the Media level.
Here are just a few old and recent examples of this indoctrination process in play. For years, the Republicans have branded the Democrats as
the "Softies" ... the "Doves" who are leary of a fight, who are naive about the evil-doers out there, and who are too prepared to "compromise" at any cost. Thus, we can only Trust our security to the Realists" or the Protector "Hawks", i.e., the Republicans...who will never allow our nation to be militarily vulnerable to the evil intentions of others. Of course, one would hardly call Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Bill Clinton weak as protectors of U.S. security.
If one had recorded G.Bush Jr.s´ last two election campaigns, you would have noticed he repeated constantly in short, terse phrases, the words FREEDOM, SECURITY with clear innuendoes that our nation would be less Safe under Democrats.
Now, you hear the generally respectable John McCain starting to say the same things over and over and over about Barack Obama. WHY? Because he knows (as Freud's research proved long ago) that if you keep repeating a slogan or statement enough -- regardless of its bequiling, unthinking and mendacious content--people will come to accept it in large numbers. FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR!
How often do we hear the refrain that Democrats are the party of TAX and SPEND, BIG GOVERNMENT? Well, so often that Democrats have seldom marshalled any arguments against such verbal obfuscation. Democrats appear to have come sofar as to in effect accept such lying exaggerations as a true statement.
The Reality is that the rate of annual growth in either the size of Government or taxation and spending levels has not changed much over last 30 years (except Deficits) under Republicans or Democrats... only in HOW we have spent taxpayer money and HOW we have funded our spending are there clear differences. The Republicans tend to always balloon Defense (because of all those enemies out there), cut, postpone, privatize or eliminate social-infrastructure investments
-- with resultant HUGE deficits for 20 years by Reagan, Bush Sr. and now Bush Jr.
The Democrats tend to stabilize Defense expenditures, redirect taxpayer monies to social-infrastructure programs with modest tax increases, e.g., under Clinton, and remember that Bush Sr. had to increase taxes because Reagan created such gigantic deficits for eight years -- the same dilemma Bush Jr. has created for the next Democratic President. Democratic administrations since President Carter have had very modest deficits (actually surpluses in last years of Clinton Presidency)... something that has never happened under a Republican Presidency since Nixon.
Recent FRAPPEZ TOUJOURS? I've watched how WOLF BLITZER of CNN, in his overplayed automoton journalistic role as the neutral observer, REPEATED at least 9 if not more times the same question in his last week programs including last Sunday to a number of guests including Barack Obama, namely, in so many words: "McCain and others are implying, if not saying directly, that Obama is embracing a reckless foreign policy (with innuendo he is endangering U.S. national security) by talking to Iran leadership "WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS." Repeat... WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS. Not surprising that McCain has been following Blitzer's media chorus, repeating several times the phrase `WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS´.
Now, here comes the final joke on everyone: each time Wolf Blitzer has been given a straight answer by Obama and/or other people that Obama will of course make the proper PREPARATIONS before talking directly -- but he, unlike McCain, does not DISMISS out-of-hand any possibility for direct talks. Now, I can say honestly that in Holland, if a journalist were given a more thorough, nuanced answer to dogmatic accusations by someone, he wouldn't repeat the same question again and again and again which would end up appearing to be a phony SOAP EFFECT. The journalist would bring the answer to the person(s) throwing out the spurious innuendos.
CNN with Blitzer and others leading the way, have done the same FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR about Reverend Wright´s comments which were more than amply answered by Obama´s brilliant speech on Race and Religion and his later renunciation of Wright´s recent outburst. But, Oh no, despite this, the Media continued and is continuing to hammer a dead horse, in effect contributing indirectly to our societal indoctrination... by FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR!
There´s an obvious vast difference in fighting hard and tough in politics versus fighting with outright distortions and lies that make a travestry of the whole process. Reasonably civil, intelligent debate of concrete policy/solution differences relating to serious issues facing our nation is desperately needed in these times. RAMBO politics is the caricature game of deprived minds and unhealthy values... and the public is finally SICK of IT.
McCain´s Bush style of Convincing by Repetition, for example, that he´s a tested soldier and military expert(which he is) who´s the ONLY qualified person we can trust our nation´s security to (which he is not) is propaganda by the technique of... FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR.
This is the same psychological technique that worked so well with the public for BUSH Jr. against John Kerry and look what that got us... one of the obviously worst Presidencies in our history.
The old saying is true: `You get what you asked for´. If we really think gutter politics governed by vitrolic accusations and lies is a legitimate part of the game to separate the boys from the girls in the struggle for high office, then this Independent voter says it´s time for a CHANGE.
there is an alternative to 'ripping into', after seeing some better preachers than I, I did invigorate my sermons. It was more fun for me, and for the congregation. I did not depart from my previous practice of trying to say, something new, something true, and something interesting. Rob
Dear Dr. Reich:
Part of the problem lies with the politicians and pundits. If you want to elevate the level of the debate, you could try boycotting the cable "news" and the big networks.
Stick to PBS or Cspan.
By now, everyone should have read Roger Ailes's book You Are The Message for insight into how he's dominated American Republican politics. However, we seem to be entering an era where Ailes's influence is diminished. For example, Mitt Romney spent four times as much as any other candidate on teevee ads during the Iowa primary. Betcha Roger Ailes crafted those ads. Same goes for the last three Congressional seats that the Republican strongholds lost to the Dems.
Perhaps the press that Thomas Jefferson favored is no longer teevee ads but the blogs and YouTube. That's a start for ending politics as we've known it since Roger Ailes first helped Ronald Reagan's campaign.
concern4civility said... "Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people",
The full version, from HL Mencken...
"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."
And my corrollary...
"Nobody ever went broke overestimating the gullibility of the American people."
Which may be closer to the truth.
The issue of Obama's laudable desire to take the high road and avoid mudslinging came up for me on a very personal level today, when I decided to write a letter to his campaign staff recommending that he take advantage of a rare and, to me, splendid opportunity to turn the tables on Bush while acting as a catalyst in educating the American public on the the kind of characters we're really dealing with here.
The impetus for my letter was Bush's incredible accusation this week to the Israeli Knesset that Obama and the Democrats in general were no better than those who "appeased the Nazis" and caused WWII.
I'm not sure Obama or his key staffers are aware, as most Americans are not aware, that the Bush family made their fortunes and began their rise to power as early financiers and business partners with Hitler and the Nazi party, primarily through their partnership with Thyssen, one of Hitler's principle sponsors. W's great grandfather's on both sides, the Bush and Walker families, formed a bank in partnership with the Harrimans and Rockefellers, that financed the Nazis. Their attorneys were the Dulles Brothers, who also had many Nazi corporate clients.
After being stripped of many of their holdings and illegal profits as Nazi collaborators - making much of their personal fortune from slave labor in Nazi death camps, sales of gas chambers, and who knows what else, Prescott Bush (a member of the international Eugenics movement who lost early runs for Congress because of his goal of involuntarily sterilizing millions of American citizens) resurrected himself as the kingmaker behind the Eisenhower/Nixon White House, Nixon being his personal political protege. The rest - the JFK assassination, Watergate, Iran-contra, and 9/11 (at the center of all the house of Bush) - is history. Sordid history.
My question, Robert, is this: Do you think Obama would be wise or unwise to have simply replied to the media: People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!? It's clear to me, as a matter of historical fact, that the Bush family has itself gone far beyond mere "appeasement" of the Nazis, being principal COLLABORATORS with the Nazis. And why is it, whether Obama turns the tables and spotlight on Bush or not, that the mainstream mass media, along with the leadership of the Democratic party, lacks the courage to make this an issue at the core of the battle for American democracy? Why doesn't anyone with real authority tell it to America like it is. The Republican party is being run by neo-Nazis. The rapid drift toward loss of civil liberties, a constant war culture, torture and violation of human rights, rampant corporatism, etc. shouldn't surprise any thoughtful person in the least. These are predictable developments given the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Please enlighten me here.
P.S. We have had the pleasure of meeting, during your tenure as Secretary of Labor. We attended a breakfast together in Vallejo, in 1995, as guests of the AFL-CIO, with Congressman Dan Hamburg and others. During your site visit to Mare Island Reemployment Center, which you cited as a national model base closure effort. Nice to find you here ...
frank:
There is one thing in your rant that you fail to remember, or maybe you don't know. Obama did in fact say that he would meet with Iran WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS! It was during one of the debates and when he was asked the question, and the question included the wording, WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS, he said yes he would meet with them under that scenario.
He has since realized that the answer was a foolish faux pas but you can bet the video tape will be running hourly come October.
Now you can rail about US politics and the lies and distortions and the nasty nuances but you can't make a lie out of a true statement.
Don't go yelling "FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR" at me. I heard the damn answer.
I have laid out the numbers for you before. At this point in time there is no evidence that the American public is ready for a new kind of politics. Look at the poll numbers for Obama v. McCain, for what they are worth at this point, the polls show them neck and neck. Obama has barely held onto a majority of the Democratic vote with his kindler, gentler message. He's a long way from home and there is no evidence out there, beyond a minority of those who have felt that way for a long time, that a plurality of the American voters are ready for a change in political dialogue and tactics.
When parties start winning elections with a different tone then a wave may be in the making. So far whether it's "FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR" or not it has been winning for a number of years and the winners never express remorse for their tactics.
Even if Obama is ultimately successful it will not speak to his new way, his new politics, it will be because a majority of the American public is tired of sucking hind tit.
Wishing and hoping seldom gets the job done. Viewing America through a Dutch prism does little to advance wishing and hope.
They're clearly not reading my cable box. I switch the channel when crap like unwonted character assassination occurs. I have almost no patience for someone talking over someone else and going all bombastic then when the other person tries to rebut, the person who started out talking over them gets all "hurt" and says "let me finish". I think "no, you didn't let them talk and don't deserve more airtime" and change the channel.
I don't think we need news updates every hour on the hour. We don't need smaller and smaller headlines. We need substance, analysis, and intelligent dissection of whole speeches rather than soundbytes.
Fortunately, Obama is good a giving speeches that make wonderful soundbytes.
Art,
I enjoy our occassional disagreements, but wish you could keep your "ranting" and personal jibes about the "rants" of others in check ... in the interest of more thoughtful give-and-take discourse.
The main point of my FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR message is that dogmatic, misconstrued Brand Labeling of others -- when Repeated for effect often enough and without equal attention to facts and give-and-take thinking for all perspectives -- becomes accepted Conventional Wisdom by many, to the detriment of our democratic process.
Let's go back to the "WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS" example. Obama many weeks ago (and recently) explained his unique approach to foreign policy very clearly and simply: specifically, he would not engage in direct talks with countries like Iran, Syria without appropriate PREPARATIONS (he has elaborated on what he means here) and without prospects of a better understanding between foes. Also, assuming the Preparation hurdle is passed, he's been equally candid that he would NOT SET any further conditions to direct talks, like telling Iran they must first stop developing nuclear technology. His position with Hamas is no different than McCain's.
But the McCain, the Republican establishment and the Media draw the public onto the band-wagon HERD EFFECT of giving nominal attention to Obama's, open, nuanced approach to foreign policy -- while the Media rotely repeats dozens of times Obama's phrase, "WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS",
dramatizing the faked imagery of dangerous rhetoric. That's the FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR tactic, intentionally or unintentionally artfully indoctrinating our society.
Obama's wants a similar flexible approach to Cuba, as Western Europe adopted 35 years ago. Never engaging Fidel Castro has hardly helped the Cuban people the last 40years. Neither in his opinion will the same approach be very constructive with Raul Castro as Cuba's new leader.
But Obama's being demonized over and over on this too as a reckless novitiate in foreign affairs. FRAPPEZ TOUJOUR is alive and well here also. It's all about fear mongering (a verbal art form the Republicans are masters at) rather than critical discussion and debate.
The irony is all this is that the general public more and more is seeing through this culture of passive indoctrination pervading our social-political dialogue in so many ways (other examples I gave in my earlier post are but a tip of the iceberg).. and not just during election times.
As I mentioned, I think this explains the significant rise of registered Independent voters in recent years... in effect a quietly growing third party that seems to want a Government of less divisive and distortive politics and more a Government about balanced SOLUTIONS, benefiting the majority of Americans.
frank:
Sometimes vitriolic responses are necessary to wake people up. Much like a slap in the face to calm hysteria.
I'm sure if you polled the entire American populace you would find a vast majority desire a less volatile political process. The problem, as I have stated to you ad nauseum, and as even Dr. Reich admits in his post, is that we keep responding to the lies, distortions and cheap shots.
In our earliest dialogues I suggested that what you propose in many instances is a cultural change. Cultural changes happen over generations not overnight. The sparks can be initiated by eloquent, intelligent voices. Those voices seldom end up being a part of the process that effects the change.
A perfectly valid reason for this is the segue that must take place to alter cultural biases. Change does not occur as a flip of the switch. It moves along a continuum, often drifting back and forth over the same data points. If the author, or strong proponent of change is involved in the day to day meanderings leading to change, he/she by necessity must flow with the continuum movements. This means that if a step backward occurs and appears to be effective then he/she must continue the fight by the methods controlling the dialogue and this can throw them into behavior that is contrary to that which they are pursuing and proposing.
When your job is to get things done; to move things forward; you don't generally have the time, nor the energy, to push for cultural change at the same time.
Frequently it is the failing of innovative thinkers to understand the limits of time. Our politicians serve for limited times. Necessity requires that at some point in their serving they must redirect energies to re-serving; to getting re-elected. This shortens the time available for achieving meaningful legislation. If good things are not happening early on in a new administration, the next Congressional election, no more than two years from any given date, creates a risk that the makeup of the Congress will change dramatically and many hopes will be dashed; ask Bill Clinton.
Though one can try and appreciate your views and analysis of the American experience, one cannot but realize that you are expounding from a venue that has little day to day contact with everday Americans. This means that your conclusions are based less on empirical evidence and more on what you read and hear. Not totally invalid but generally finding solutions requires getting into the mire of the problems.
There is no doubt that we, in America, could learn much from the wisdom and experience of other countries. But the analyses and conclusions must be handled gingerly because, like it or not, insane or not, solutions that are presented as emanating from foreign countries are anathema to the American public. Not all of them but enough to hold sway in future elections.
Your constant reference to Holland and various other European countries as offering better ways falls on deaf ears to much of the American populace. Your credit card regulation suggestions for curing the US dilemma would find a whole host of Patrick Henry's rising up and exclaiming, "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!"
One can hardly argue with the good sense behind your military expenditure reduction suggestions. In realtime, politically they won't fly. You can suggest that others of the free or Western world should step up and relieve us of our world police responsibilities, but none are doing so and likely won't. We're having a hell of a problem getting NATO to step up in Afghanistan.
WWII probably lasted longer than it needed to because we had let our military wane after WWI (the war to end all wars). The American public's reluctance to engage in another world war excerbated our slow entrance and allowed the destruction of many European societies and the strengthening of Germany's military capabilities.
It was conventional wisdom that after the Cold War ended there were defense expenditures to be saved. The American people were very easily convinced that this was folly. Forewarned is forearmed, replaced In God We Trust.
So while your ideas are good, it's, as I have told you many times, not what we should do but what we can do that is the delimiter.
Finally your conclusion that the rise in "independent" voter status somehow portends a desire for change to our political dialogue is also a fallacy. First of all, even as a Democrat I can pull the lever for the entire Republican slate when I go to vote. How I vote is not predicated on my stated party affiliation. If your premise were valid we would be seeing a rising "Independent" political party with not only Presidential candidates but Congressional candidates and various State officials as well. We see no such movement.
The more logical explanation is the result of the labels, Democrat or Republican, and the hard and fast positions each of those labels has taken. Since the parties tend to be defined more by their extremes, more and more people, holding middle of the road feelings about those extremes, have decided to cast off any label that predefines them. To a great extent the old party designations fail to represent the philosophies of much of the populace so they have chosen to discard any political insinuations ascribed to them by a particular party affiliation. I, myself, am registered as an independent, not because I am tired of the political diatribe but because I abhor labels that tend to categorize me as being of one belief or another. I am, nevertheless, a diehard liberal.
You certainly are entitled to your opinions and to express them but you should be aware that opinions of expatriates who do not live with the day to day frustrations of our political/economic process can often fail to impress those of us who do.
Patriotism being what it is, we also tire of hearing how Holland or any other country has the better idea. Especially when you consider that there would be no Holland if not for us.
frank:
One further issue. I agree that we ought to soften our attitude regarding Cuba. The problem is that most Americans could care less and those that care most, a huge expatriate community, mostly in south Florida, are an important voting block that neither party wants to alienate.
If you don't win elections you don't get to make the decisions.
You might be interested in a site ( http://www.click4obama.com ) and a facebook application ( http://starturl.com/click4obama ) called Click 4 Obama that I recently launched. It is a simple and educational quiz game to support Obama. Every question you get right helps post "Obama for President" ads all over the web. You can challenge your friends to play and see how you rank against them and everyone else!
You Play, Obama Wins!
Who wants to bet that McCain will become so enraged by Obama during one of the upcoming general election debates, that he'll use the "n" word?
I was feeling all warm until you too joined in with:
"the Republican Party is already airing ads linking Obama to Wright, which McCain is disavowing but not shutting down – thereby putting the candidate on a high road even as the party takes the low. Mostly, though, the public is fed up with the rancor -- isn't it?"
good girl roxie said...
Your remarks tell me you prefer "Gladiator Politics" over the exchange of ideas. Are you afraid of hearing an opinion that id different from your own?
In defining the term “to swiftboat” as “(to lie about a critical fact in one's opponent's biography)” Mr. Reich clearly implies that Swift Boat Veterans for Truth lied about John Kerry’s biography (thus seriously impuning the character of a great many Vietnam Veterans).
Please, Mr. Reich, educate me. Where did Swift Boat Veterans for Truth lie? I don’t expect a response (because there were no lies).
I will simply note that Kerry left quite an “interesting” trail to follow.
We can all thank our lucky stars that John Kerry was not elected President!
P.S.) I should have noted the extreme hypocrisy of Mr. Reich apparently impuning the character of soooo many Vietnam Veterans while simultaneously crying “crocodile tears” over a lack of civility in American politics.
What a sick, sad JOKE!
Dear political hack sbvor,
Where did swiftboatvets lie? Read up for yourself:
http://www.factcheck.org/republican-funded_group_attacks_kerrys_war_record.html
P.S., your feigned objectivity fools no one but yourself.
T-Bone,
Are you kidding me? It just amazes me how gullible you so-called “Liberals” are!
The best your cited summary can muster is one man’s word against the word of all those veterans featured in this clip.
If I ever stop laughing, I might consider reading the rest of it. Oh wait, the very next argument was the usual slander suggesting that decorated war veterans were tainted by money. Pravda would be soooo proud, comrade!
Readers can compare your source to mine and judge for themselves which one has more credibility.
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