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Robert Reich was the nation's 22nd Secretary of Labor and is a professor at the University of California at Berkeley. His latest book is "Supercapitalism." This is his personal journal.

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Thursday, September 18, 2008

The Bailout of All Bailouts is a Bad Idea

Talk today about the Bailouts of All Bailouts eased market fears and generated a giant rally on the Street, but how realistic is it?

On Capitol Hill, Senator Charles Schumer suggested that government inject funds into financial companies in exchange for equity stakes and pledges to rewrite mortgages and make them more affordable. At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, Hank Paulson reportedly is considering an agency like the Resolution Trust Corporation, established during the savings and loan crisis of the late 1980s, to take bad debts off the balance sheets of financial institutions.

Problems are: (1) It's not likely to do all that much good because no one knows how much bad debt there is out there. Even if the government bought a lot of it, investors and lenders still couldn't be sure how much remained. After all, big banks have already written down hundreds of billions of bad debts, and that hasn't restored confidence in the Street. As the economy slows, bad debts will grow. Again, the problem isn't a liquidity or solvency crisis; it's a crisis of trust.

(2) However much bad debt there may be, that amount is surely far greater than the $394 billion of real estate, mortgages, and other assets that the old RTC bought from hundreds of failed savings-and-loans -- thereafter selling them off form whatever it could get for them. The Bailout of All Bailouts would therefore put taxpayers at far greater risk than they are even today, and require an unprecedented role for government in reselling assets. Another major step toward socialized capitalism.

A better idea would be for the Fed and Treasury to organize a giant workout of Wall Street -- essentially, a reorganization under bankruptcy, for whatever firms wanted to join in. Equity would be eliminated, along with most preferred stock, creditors would be paid off to the extent possible. And then the participants would start over with clean balance sheets that reflected new, agreed-upon rules for full disclosure, along with minimum capitalization. Everyone would know where they stood. Bad debts would be eliminated. Taxpayers wouldn't get left holding the bag. And there would be no "moral hazard" incentive for future financial wizards to take giant risks with other taxpayers' money.

Congress, the Fed, and the Administration shouldn't be giving more help to Wall Street. Policymakers should focus instead on people who really need a safety net right now -- workers who have lost or are about to lose their jobs, who need extended unemployment insurance and health insurance for themselves and their families; homeowners who have lost or are likely to lose their homes, who need additional help meeting mortgage payments and reorganizing their debts; and people who have lost or are in danger of losing their savings or pensions, who need better insurance against possible loss.

The only way Wall Street's meltdown doesn't spill over to Main Street is if policymakers begin to pay adequate attention to the people whose wallets really keep the economy going, and who merit more help than the Wall Street tycoons whose carelessness and negligence have put it in such jeopardy.

172 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Reich,

It sounds suspiciously like you are favoring a capitalist solution to this problem.

Please hew closer to the (developing) Party line on this or suffer the consequences...

Your Comrade,

Hank Paulson

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Blogger notsofast said...

Robert said....
"A better idea would be for the Fed and Treasury to organize a giant workout of Wall Street -- essentially, a reorganization under bankruptcy, for whatever firms wanted to join in."

Very interesting and creative idea. I can already hear the crybabies on Wall Street whining that they wouldn't be getting their losses socialized under a plan like this. Poor babies. lol

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We operate in this good vs. bad, us, vs. them mentality, but reality is not just black and white. All the colors of the spectrum exist between these parameters, not just shades of grey.
Society has two sides, public and private and as the situation becomes ever more complex, we need to become ever more nuanced, not just revert to the same old name calling.
The fact is that money functions as a public utility and it is only in the form that follows this function is it a store of private wealth. Like a road system where you are in complete possession of the section you are on, while its value is dependent on its connectivity with the road everyone else is using.
After years of privatizing every possible aspect of the public commons from which profit can be squeezed, in the name of efficiency, the dam has burst and the banking system is being rapidly nationalized, at least these parts which have negative value. Is there a pony in this manure?
What if banking were a function of all levels of government, with small banks incorporated at the town and county level, medium sized banks at the city and state level and large national institutions, with money being issued directly by the government. Communities would be the basis of competition, as each tried to offer the best environment for people and business, with banking funding the infrastructure of the community producing its profits, rather then these profits being siphoned off by a private banking system to either the select few, or leaving the community altogether.
For those advocates of privatization, would you like to live in a society where the court system, governance, the police, the roads, etc. were all private functions. There are examples around the world and throughout history where this is the case and they don't provide healthy situations for most of their denizens. Political power originated as a consequence of personal initiative, but after eons of trial and error, it has become a public trust. Maybe the time has come to try making economic power a public trust as well, especially when the risks have already been socialized.
John Merryman

P.S.
http://webofdebt.wordpress.com/monetary-proposal/

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Blogger dalas v. said...

I agree whole heartedly with your final paragraph.

Although, I have also been thinking about how much this crisis is being pinned on Wall Street, when so much blame also lies with consumers getting irresponsible loans to fund unnecessary or extravagant purchases.

It's frustrating to be a young person (28) who never took out an irresponsible loan, never spent more than he could afford, never gambled recklessly with other people's money, and yet I'm going to be held responsible for their actions and they (consumers and bankers/traders) will get bailed out.

When do I get rewarded for being responsible?

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Anonymous Leslie said...

I am very grateful that Bush was not able to privatize social security. I felt that something like this could easily happen in an unregulated market. The SEC was asleep at the wheel on this.

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Blogger Denis said...

The Republican hypocrisy that is running rampant these days is truly a sight to behold. These are the same people who worshiped at the alter of Reagan several decades ago, i.e., getting big government off the backs of average taxpayers. Of course, their target was the social welfare function of government. Exempt was the business welfare function of the government that they depended upon to make them even richer. Today it is more of the same. Indeed, where is the focus on the people who really need a safety net right now? Free enterprise for the poor, socialism for the rich. So I am not surprised at the current spectacle of socialized capitalism. Appalled, but not surprised, at being stiffed once again by the “free lunch” crowd. So much for getting big government off the backs of average tax payers.

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Blogger snoozetska said...

Well, since it's all about me, this stutterstep in the trip down the cellar stairs did provide time to raise cash for a-likely-nother three months of unemployment.
I'm buying seed and canning jars.

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Anonymous Bill said...

I wonder about the term,
"moral hazard", because
whenever I hear it, it
always seems to be about
companies failing. But
companies are neither moral
nor immoral; it's the persons
who make the bad decisions
who need to be seen as
failures. As long as they
can pop their parachutes
and walk away unscathed,
I don't see any hazard
nor any reason for them
not to do the same thing
all over again.

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Blogger Bruce Barnes said...

We have seen the Republican Party’s trickle down policy to solve the economic slow down due real estate, and mortgages problem. After a year of tinkering, trickle down does not work. It is time to implement a bottom up solution that will work.

Senator Charles Schumer suggested that government inject funds into financial companies in exchange for equity stakes and pledges to rewrite mortgages and make them more affordable. House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, this week proposed Congress create a federal entity to buy bad loans. Senator Hillary Clinton of New York, a former candidate for the Democratic nomination for president, proposed resurrecting a 1930s-era agency to stem foreclosures. ``We need a modern day Home Owners' Loan Corporation,'' Clinton said in remarks at the Senate today. ``There will not be any semblance of a normal or orderly market'' without ``quarantining'' the devalued loans outstanding, she said.

However it is done, the policy is sound. Rewrite mortgages and make them more affordable. For example, suppose a homeowner has a $100,000 adjustable rate mortgage at 7 percent and will reset to put the monthly payment out of reach. Congress should create a federal entity to buy bad loans, such as, a modern day Home Owners' Loan Corporation, or Fannie and Freddie. The federal entity could rewrite the mortgage, pay the original mortgage holder 50 percent, $50,000, and make the remainder a second lien. PMI could kick in for the second lien. Which means the home cannot be sold until the second mortgage is paid off. The homeowner would agree to a 30 year fixed rate first mortgage at an affordable, appropriate interest rate, say 5 percent and a second mortgage at 0 percent. The homeowner could stay in the home but would still pay the full loan amount at reduced interest rate. His neighbor’s home value would not go down because of a foreclosed house next door and also fewer houses on the market. The federal entity could sell the first mortgage to investors and the second mortgage holder could sell the second mortgage to investors at a reduced amount. The value of the original loan now has a known value.

Ross Perot has said, “ When you destroy the middle class in this country you destroy America.” The Republican Party’s trickle down policy has not helped the middle class. It has only helped big business.

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Anonymous Alex Birch said...

Dr. Reich,

Just think the USA is now the largest sponsor of Manchester United (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={235041b8-c516-4517-8d04-aeebb5882b8a}&sponsors=aig), hopefully this will get Americans to enjoy more soccer.

Just think of all the sponsorships the bailout is providing.

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Blogger Sir Gorpster said...

Hello,
One thing that needs to be changed is the approval of mergers until a company is "to big to fail". Before all that was needed was the assurance that they wold not have so much market share that it could take advantage of it's monopoly status. Now, we know that that companies can just get to be "to big to fail" putting the burden on taxpayers instead of the investors who have been making the phoney profits all these years on bubble money...

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Anonymous Paul said...

What's frustrating is that these multinational corporations can privatize the profits (build wealth for the shareholders), and socialize the losses (when the taxpayers come in to the rescue, via the federal government.

...guess it's time to form a corporation :)

Thanks for the informative site!

Paul

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Blogger jeff f said...

Dr. Reich,
Excellent idea, why didn't the Fed think of this?

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Anonymous RSL said...

Back in 1999, did Phil Gramm play the key role along with support from Alan Greenspan in setting the global stage for this mother of all financial storms we're facing today?

What we are discovering now is that the financial system we have enabled ( with the help of deregulation) is far too complex and globally inter-connected to be safely managed and monitored by mere mortals.

At this point, have we run out of options to save the consumer economy from a lasting recession?

RSL

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I agree, Paulson's plan doesn't make sense given the amount of liability the goverment takes on, I don't agree with your proposed solution either.

First, what about the investors that get wiped out in this process you've proposed? Yes, we all hate the "evil investor" and his country club cronies, but it's not just country club buddies. Anyone with a 401k, pension, annuity, or other investment probably has some stake in the financial industry through equity investments or debt holdings which affects their current or future income. Letting things "reset" then doesn't make much sense in hopes that it prevents the pain - it just gets shifted. If my retirement account drops by $10,000, I lose that now. If instead I have to pay back 10,000 through higher taxes at some point in the future, it's actually less due to present value.

Companies can enter bankrupcy right now if they wanted to so why would any of them chose to enter your proposal unless their back is really against the wall? And is that something you'd really want in case the decide to tough it out?

What you're proposing (and what you called "socialized capitalism" in your 9/15 post) is what AIG essentially followed - a controlled bankrupcy (at 11% interest and selling off assets, AIG won't be back in any recognizable form). It's unregulated collapse would have lead to an even greater shock to the system as 401k's, pensions, and other entities that require insurance underwriting to remain in legal complaince and reassured investments to individuals would have lost that protection.

No, asking companies to willingly enter reorganization doesn't do anything they can't already do. Instead, something needs to address the source of the problem, the oversupply of housing and real estate. What that is, I don't know, but controling the symptoms and not the disease is a sure way to ensure the country remains sick for much longer.

Thursday, 18 September, 2008  
Blogger baychev said...

Robert,
Do you really expect Hank Paulson to kiss a good bye to his family trust loaded with Goldman Sachs stock?

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Cicero Hood said...

Sir Gorpster raises a point that I'd been talking about since the first rumblings about Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae some weeks ago: for the nonce we continue to discuss corporations, banks and other financial institutions in terms of their being "too big to allow to fail." When do people begin to discuss these entities in terms of being too big to allow to exist?

Thanks for a well-written and thought-provoking post, Mr. Reich.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous SESALMONY@aol.com said...

What do economists see as the size, shape and make-up of Earth?

It appears as if the family of humanity lives in a relatively small, evidently finite and noticeably frangible planetary home. If Earth is bounded in space-time; if Earth’s limited resources are being recklessly dissipated; and if Earth’s environs are being irreversibly degraded by relentless pollution, can an adequate, reality-oriented case be made by economists for the sustainability of the colossal scale and fully expected, seemingly endless growth of the artificially designed, manmade global economy that is rampantly overspreading our planetary home?

Do economists still believe that the Earth is flat, that Earth is like a mother’s teat at which the human species can perpetually suckle, or that the planet we inhabit is a cornucopia?

If so, please explain.

Steven Earl Salmony
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population,
established 2001
http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/index.php

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Chris D. said...

What we need is an opposition party that would stand up to the financial class and relentlessly look out for the interests of the middle class!

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...people who have lost or are in danger of losing their savings or pensions, who need better insurance against possible loss."

Retirees need particular help with losses to inflation. PBGC pensions are not CPI adjusted, which devastates the pensions over time. Savings rates are below the CPI, even before taxes. Retirees desperately need help with inflation protection.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger jeff f said...

If my retirement account drops by $10,000, I lose that now. If instead I have to pay back 10,000 through higher taxes at some point in the future, it's actually less due to present value.

I think retirement accounts should be insured against this kind of massive loss due circumstances such as this.
That would be a good solution and Reich's plan would still work.

The government is going to insure the money market funds, so I think all retirement funds should be as well. Now of course this has to be done with some strict guidelines as every time the market takes a dive and you just happen to be retiring I don't think you should be able to file a claim for loss.

It should only be for events such as this, which we all hope will not happen again.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger consultant said...

"When do I get rewarded for being responsible?"

It's hard, but start by getting your parent's (and grandparents) to vote for Obama.

If you have the time, work on your aunts and uncles.

Also..NO BAILOUTS!

Please, President Obama, unwind this continuing Ponzi scheme by putting a lot of people in prison. It's called WIRE FRAUD.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous John Lawrence said...

The proposed transfer of private debt to public debt does not solve the problem, just kicks the can down the road. First how do you decollateralize all those collateralized debt obliogations (CDOs) and ferret out the good from the bad? How do you decide which credit default swaps are good and which are bad and who owns what? How do you decide which short-sellers are to be paid and which aren't? The problem is that derivatives and securitization (adding in insurance) have made the financial system into such a complex and toxic stew that there's no unraveling it. You can't deconstruct the deconstruction of Humpty Dumpty.

And I don't hear anyone suggesting we go back to Glass-Steagall or that we repeal Gramm-Leach-Bliley. The problem is not regulation; it's the Financial Modernization Act. Rather than try to regulate such a complex mess, the mess should be simplified and certain financial instruments should be made illegal.

Putting the bad debt on the taxpayers simply adds to the ultimate problem which is the mounting Federal debt and budget deficits projected to be $500 billion for 2009 pre bail-outs. The interest alone on this debt is amounting to some $400 billion a year. With the bailout-of-bailouts, we could be adding a trillion dollars to the debt in one year alone. This downward spiral of national debt is the real problem.

By the way, when they talk about socializing the debt of these failed institutions, they are all too eager and willing to privatize them again once they become profitable. Where's the upside profits for the taxpayers? See Frank Thomas on the National Debt and MELTDOWN! The US Economy Goes Down the Tubes.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Don said...

As a libertarian Democrat, I'm with you Bob. Good ideas! Don the libertarian Democrat.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly aiding Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the failed Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of an investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB).

Here is McBush's record on how he participated in one of our previous financial crisis ... interfering with justice when regulators were trying to resolve accountability.

McBush doesn't need to know anything about the economy because.... when he was a POW there was no economy in the prison and he came out just fine.

Some of the decision makers engineering the survival of wall street have conflicts of interest.

The Bush administration was asleep at the wheel chasing Al-Qaeda windmills… while his friends on wall street terrorize our financial system.

The people of this country need to take back their government ... vote for change !!!!

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Weaseldog said...

On the news this morning, it was reported that Paulson and Bernanke are putting together a plan to use taxpayer money to buy foreclosed properties to prop the market values up.

I think we can assume that they intend to buy a something resembling appraisal values then reselling the properties back to banks at distressed prices.

They are hammering out the details over the weekend.

Why do we call putting money into the stock market, investing?

When you buy a stock, you're placing a bet that you'll be able to resell it a higher value. Chances are good that when you and millions of your friends sell those stocks in retirement, that the net effect is that you'll bring the price down and lose value.

So it's really just gambling, and the odds are that you'll lose.

Couple this with our government's plan to hyperinflate us to prosperity and even if your stock goes up, it still loses value in the long run against inflation.

If the house didn't win most of the time, it wouldn't be operating a casino. It would be out of business. We know the big institutions regularly manipulate markets and cheat the small investor to enrich themselves. they get busted on a semi-regular basis.

So why do we call, betting against the house, 'investing'? We should call it what is is, 'Gambling'. and it's gambling in a rigged game.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger GrandpaKen said...

The sanest views I'm hearing consistently about all this economic stuff are coming from Robert Reich. How come his name isn't on the list of people Barack Obama is listening to?

It seems to me he should be at the head of the list and everyone else should try to explain, "why not do what he says."

If Barack Obama screws this up what difference will anything else he does, or tries to do, make?

"Some of the most respected names in the business world were pitching in Friday, including billionaire investor Warren Buffett, former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, former Treasury secretaries Robert Rubin, Lawrence Summers and Paul O'Neill and Laura Tyson, former head of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Clinton.

Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee, was to meet with advisers in Coral Gables, Fla., on the campus of the University of Miami and then announce his new proposals. Buffett and O'Neill and perhaps others were to participate by way of a telephone conference call." --By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent
Fri Sep 19, 6:30 AM ET

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger fiduciaryhubris said...

Dr. Reich,

I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. However, the 1000lb gorilla is this: If we allowed structured bankruptcies that wipe out equity, wouldn't that inevitably result in an unacceptable degradation of the capital positions of a multitute of pension funds which are heavily invested in the market?

Unfortunately, while I'm all for insuring that the Wall Street wolves aren't insulated (e.g. create legislation to abrogate the compensation of executives who have created this mess), I don't see how to avoid some form of bailout.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the finance and banking industries accept this government bailout they should have no problem accepting salary limits determined by the government for CEOs and executives.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They have taken our jobs..

They are taking our homes...

They have taken our retirement & savings...

They have taken more of our income through taxes...

We have been trapped into an oil dependent society at the cost of destroying the earth...

The greed of unregulated capitalism is destroying life as we knew it...

We need change to swing back to sanity.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a solution that won't cost the taxpayers very much at all:

The FED sets up a rescue fund for homeowners in trouble. They send $25K to the mortgage holder to hold the homeowner's account steady, sort of a safety net. The mortgage company rewrites the loan and records a $25K note for the FED as the primary mortgage. The homeowner pays his mortgage as he can until this crisis is resolved.

It's not the FREE money like the FED is doing now. It gets paid back when the homeowner sells the house. The housing market is what is dragging things down. It could be a sinkhole that takes us all down. Solve it now.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Wes said...

This isn't a bailout of the Wall Street firms - that is only smoke and mirrors.

It has been a year-long concerted effort to bail out the Republican party and save an election by a bunch of corrupt, desperate people who are terrified of what a Democrat administration will find hidden under the covers.

God help us, for we are on the brink.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't your idea of a mass wall street workout represent an effective default triggering CDS unwinding on a scale beyond which we've already seen thus creating even more liquidity problems for the Fed and Treasury to deal with? We're in a situation where the cure may be more harmful than the disease.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger notsofast said...

Robert said....
"Congress, the Fed, and the Administration shouldn't be giving more help to Wall Street. Policymakers should focus instead on people who really need a safety net right now -- workers who have lost or are about to lose their jobs, who need extended unemployment insurance and health insurance for themselves and their families; homeowners who have lost or are likely to lose their homes,..."

Well here we go. The plan unveiled this morning is projected to cost taxpayers anywhere from $500 billion to $1 trillion dollars initially as the government takes over these bad assets with the possibility of future recoupment when the housing market stabilizes.

It's time the two candidates withdraw their tax plans which are expected to cost roughly $1 trillion and $1.5 trillion. If the screams of extreme crisis in the banking system are to be taken seriously, cutting taxes for the comfortable and well-off is irresponsible. Seems higher taxes for all is necessary to ensure that the most vulnerable don't get swallowed up in this storm.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I remember correctly, many of the failed mortgages during the RTC was packaged/sold to a company called EMC. Then Bear Stearns bought EMC. Then Bear imploded. I wonder if the same problem mortgages during the time of the RTC became problems again as part of the subprime problems of Bear. If so, its a proof that we never learn and solve real problems. Bailouts do not make homes more affordable, or help the common people. They only bailout the banks and their owners/managers.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Nick said...

1. Lending requirements were loosened

2. Lots of unqualified people entered the real estate market.

3. This pushed the cost of homes way beyond their value, because so many people were bidding.

4. This real estate bubble eventually burst, and homes are trending down towards their real value.

5. The mortagees, those who insured them, and those who invested in mortgage packages and financial derivatives based on mortgage packages--all found themselves with contracts worth about half what they paid.

6. Those contracts are, or eventually will be, in default.

7. The balance sheets of the investors, institutional and individual, have lost much value because of the defaulted contracts.

8. Some of the investors are insolvent.

9. Creditors of the investors are going insolvent as a result.

10. The federal bailout is intended to stop this process of cascading insolvency.

11. The bailout is going to result in printing money, which in turn will increase the money supply and result in inflation.

12. All our assets will ultimately be devalued as a result.

13. The American lifestyle has been financed for the last dozen years by this process, and the bill is now coming due.

Is this correct?

I've only had micro and macro economics, so I'm not very learned in this area.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous silverfox said...

Each day's financial news and the Federal response moves us ever closer to the brave new world of Conservative Republician Capitalized Socialism , a world where government exists primarily to protect and enhance the wealth and power of the top few percentages of individuals. The rest of us merely exist to serve that grand purpose. If America elects another Republician to be President, we as a nation will truly deserve the steadily declining living standard that has been evolving during the last 8 years.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger notsofast said...

on a more abstract level; capitalism is chewing on its own arm and needs some outside help before it loses any more blood. lol

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Reich:

I would agree with you that a bail out of Wall Street by government would be bad, if that were the case. However, the stockholders of Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, Lehman Brothers & AIG, would disagree with your claim that the government is bailing out Wall Street. So would all the employees of those firms that lost everything… jobs & savings. Government is not trying to bail Wall Street out; it is however trying to limit the ultimate cost of the damage by limiting further counterparty failure. A good company can fall solely due to the domino effect. Such a snowballing would eventually have devastating effects on the economy and hit the “working man” very hard.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Mike said...

Why not let people borrow out of their retirement funds with no tax taxes or penalties accrued, if they use it to pay down their mortgage, or pay for things which would help our economy in some way? Hybrid car purchases come to mind here.

It isn't like people are going to be losing out of investment earnings, in the near term. So have people agree to pay it back, plus 3% interest, or some interest rate tied to the federal funds rate.

It could be targeted toward single incomes that max out at 100k, doubles at 200k.

Face it, if this fire continues, the dollar will not be worth much anyway, and people's retirement funds will still be in worthless dollars.

This is a better solution politically, and I believe, economically, than using my tax dollars to shore up Wall Street fat cats.

Maybe it's not the greatest idea, but it beats anything coming out of this White House.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another excellent article. I hope the right people are listening.

Paradoxically, it might be better if the Democrats wait four more years to take over the reins of government.

Let the Republicans panic into more bad policies so there is no doubt in the mind of the body politic that their thirty year policies are bankrupt.

Then we can finally have real change.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well stated as always. I studied under one of your proteges, Lisa Lynch, at the Fletcher School, and really find your thinking to be cogent and sympathetic to the plight of the people that drive this country.

Also, a group of volunteers (including myself) just launched a site that puts volunteers who want to travel to swing states in touch with financial sponsors and swing state host families, and allows the sponsor to track the progress and on-the-ground numbers of the volunteer they've sponsored.

It’s sort of a political hybrid of Craig's List and Team-in-Training and a pretty cool concept - check it out here: http://ObamaTravel.org/

And the Facebook group is here:
http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=24260709380

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Noel said...

Dear Robert:

I can't believe it has come to this, however, as Alice once said...curiousier and curiousier...

You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in your approach to this conundrum. I always thought you were a left-socialist, however, you are way to the right of the current administration and congress on this. BRAVO!

I suspect much of the current Legislative and Executive branches concerns are driven by their substantial reliance upon political contributions by interested parties.

But hey, money is speech according the third branch of the US government right?

Iowa Boy

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Michaek said...

+1 for your fed/treasury-sponsored bankruptcy proposal.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger mxtbcca said...

Capitalist Warriors who live by the sword should die by the sword. They shouldn't be allowed to crawl back to the Government (The People/ Socialists") once their foolishness turns against them. It's the "huddled masses yearning to breathe free" that need the protection from the New Robber Barons.

see wikipedia @ Robber Baron (industrialist)

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Reich:

The transparency of the motives behind your capitalistic solution are sickening.

We've reached the point where banks are stopping lending to one another on the overnight market because of uncertainty. This will sieze up the markets and destroy lives...and not just those of people on Wall Street. What about the pension funds of teachers, plumbers, electricians, etc.? What about average Americans who have worked hard to put away a relatively small amount --say $10,000-- in a money market mutual fund who would be destroyed by a run when asset values fall below $1?

It is clear that you are rooting for a big failure and a tsunami-like recession to propel your candidate into office, which will likely give you another fat government job. Your contempt for "Wall Street" and lack of empathy for the people on Main Street who would suffer not only financial loss, but likely the humiliation of losing their jobs, homes and everything else is appaling.

The current solution enjoys not only the support of the Bush administration, but also prominent Democrat economic minds like Larry Summers and Paul Volcker. Congress is lining up behind this too because they realize the calmity that could ensue.

Get off the campaign trail, man. This isn't the time for partisan politics. Let's get the best people together, figure out the best solution (which would including allowing some firms to fail), and get it done. We can resume the sniping at a later date.

Anonymous Matt

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Frank Thomas said...

Dr. Reich,

Excellent essay and very creative ideas to solve bailout problem without entrenching the "trust destructive" dynamic of Socialized Capitalism.

The scale and global reach of our financial malpractices left no choice but to act, as Paulson belatedly did.

But I like your bailout approach that assures significant shareholder losses and that the toxic liabilities are removed substantially for restructuring so that the duped middle class taxpayers are taken care of to extent justifiable. Obama has made it clear that this is also his goal.

The snake-eye lenders are the major culprits followed closely by a large public segment that doesn't know how to live within its means ... spurred on, of course, by Federal Reserve's 2002-2006 casino play cheap money policy ... "an accident waiting to happen." Those were the words of Greenspan, who stood idly by waiting for the God of Market Corrections to solve the systemic viru of greedy and destructive financial excesses.

You say the problem is TRUST, not system solvency, Dr. Reich. I don't entirely agree with you here. I think the Securitization process we have and Europe does not have) encourages exotic, fast money expansion and financing deals that feed on themselves... making it impossible to assess the inherent risks. In this regard, what thoughts do you have about this whole uniquely American financial capital regeneration process called ... SECURITIZATION?

Trust in universal financial circles comes down simply to strict, telescoped TRANSPARENCY and VERIFICATION. The driving motto should be "Verify and Then Trust."

This must be backed up by harsh punishment in the form of heavy fines and even prison occupation (for egregious malpractices) applied to those firms and individuals failing the unannounced "Verification (Oversight) and Then Trust tests."

Above all, the general taxpayer should not be made the fall guy for the corporate crooks and quick buck at any cost (to others) guys. As a financial conservative, I applaud your ideas in this regard.

Only point I would add is that if our Government assumes any liability for sell off or restructuring of toxic mortgages, then I hope our Government does not itself get involved in the Securitization process, i.e., packaging of "cleaned up mortgages" and selling them to investors.

We can still learn something from the best of Europe's prudent money market expansion, financial transparency enforcement, risk management and regulatory oversight practices.
Frank Thomas, The Netherlands

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Frank Thomas said...

Dr. Reich,

minor correction: paragraph 4, last sentence:

... the systemmic virus of greedy ...

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matt is correct. Our government is trying to limit a domino, counter-party failure scenario. Wall Street is experincing a lot of pain right now. Look at the lay offs, bankruptcies, & card board boxes. Whoever thinks Wall Street is being bailed out is not paying attention.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Frank Thomas said...

Matt,

Sent my Email before reading yours.

I couldn't agree more with your wise point of putting partisan politics aside in this financial crisis of all crisises ... Art knows how fervently I've been pleading for this creative cooperation across party lines for many months now.

Dr. Reich has so much to criticize that it's inevitable one loses sight sometimes of the reality, "we are all in this together."

In my years of management consulting, the golden rule was never to kill creative ideas too quickly ... we're going to need a flood of them to get at the roots of our problems and reinvestment challenges.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right Frank. And, as you correctly point out in your post, the shareholders should and will lose their shirts in this one--though I don't know if I agree with the jail thing unless there is actual fraud involved. Dr. Reich's current post points this out as well.

Shareholders are definitely going to take it in the shorts when the Treasury buys up problem debt at pennies on the dollar. This will not only result in the reporting of significant operating losses, but also large writedowns on the equity side of the balance sheet.

I still question Reich's skepticism and why, if he's so smart and altruistic, that he isn't on the phone with Paulson saying, "How can I help?" I'm all for debate. That is where we get our best ideas. But, time is of the essence, so unproductive sniping should not and cannot be allowed in the room right now.

AM

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Frank Thomas said...

Matt,

Yes, I taught a course here in commercial law 7 years ago. Jail time should apply to fraud cases ... but I think we need to be aggressive in digging into and prosecuting any fraudulent act(e.g., intentional deception or misrepresentation causing injury to another) relating to financial lending, investments and capital formation transactions.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
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Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Neil' said...

Note that "world markets soar" precisely because the US establishment has decided that "the government" - that is, taxpayers - will bail out and support the financial establishment because "we just can't let it fail" etc. Well. Isn't that an interesting irony about "free market capitalism" as I have noted elsewhere. Remember, “Freedom means freedom to fail, not just to succeed” etc? (I say this with all due respect for genuine conservatives, like I suppose Ron Paul, the crowd at American Conservative magazine, Reason, etc, who would and presumably will oppose such privatized-gains/socialized-losses pandering.)

After all the whining from conservatives about net "welfare" for the lowly (which was phony anyway considering the child tax subsidies for families up to around 100k, etc.) now we find that it's OK to make just about everyone people pay to pick up after other people who make more money (even if the market would fail) than 99.9% of the rest of us.

A commenter at WaMo named Tom Nicholson called it “wealthcare” – Bush’s biggest and final legacy - hah! Or maybe, call it wealthfare, but certainly not wealth-fair! The least the public (on whose shoulders this approx. $1T bailout rests like the World on Atlas’ shoulders – what if *we* shrugged, not the hokey Randian “real producers” at the top) can do is, to demand the following as quid pro quo:

1. Take away the special tax breaks for the upper classes such as lower capital gains rates, which they never deserved in the first place (after the fact trading accomplishes nothing, why not reward initial investment and nothing else?) Make them actually pay in the mid thirties for every kind of income, but I'm OK with a break on estate taxes (since paying out cash for receiving illiquid value can be a PITA.)

2. Administer "social welfare" like universal health care with no apologies, it's the least we can get back in return. (McCain health advisor John Goodman's arguments that everyone really has UHC/health insurance just because they can go to an emergency room are rancid plutocratic snot. Just read his quote from e.g. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/28/mccain-adviser-everyone-in-us-has-some-health-coverage/ and you think, either deliberate snarky satire or the man is literally a monster - so what does that say about who he advises/ed?)

3. Hard-ball oversight of the whole financial system, massive required transparency, firmly enforced, harsh and timely rules and punishments, in effect let MoveOn or Ralph Nader loose to decide how to regulate the finance industry and corporations. Well, rationally in the true public interest, but no quarter to the playahs for their own sake.

Let it sink in.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous kingdom media said...

it's hard to object to the government's mass bailouts as similar debt-producing methods were put into action to bring the U.S. out of the Depression... our economy has been supported and driven by debt ever since

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@John Lawrence-

"Rather than try to regulate such a complex mess, the mess should be simplified and certain financial instruments should be made illegal."

Agreed. Nobody has an accurate idea of what the derivatives and other exotic instruments market is out there. Hedge funds are almost wholly outside any regulatory framework.

But we do know, or should, that these bad gambling debts are too vast to be bailed out. These instruments should be outlawed and the world financial system put into receivership. The post Bretton Woods system is dead and in an advanced stage of decomposition. Only by writing down these unpayable debts can we hope to stop a depression.

Then, convene a conference of world powers to create a new Bretton Woods, along the lines that Italy's Tremonti has proposed. The world desperately needs to funnel investment into productive, non-speculative areas such as food production, transportation, energy and basic infrastructure. Creating a fixed-rate system will allow countries to enter into long-term deals, of 1 or 2 generations duration, at low interest rates, that will allow the expansion of the productive powers of labor across the world and will result in the crushing of the economic royalist/financial oligarchy (hopefully forever). Make no mistake, if we fail to do this at this crucial juncture, if we punt and let them bail themselves out yet again, civilization will collapse into a new dark age, ala the 14th century.

-Unmitigated Audacity

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The midget is back?

Hell- whatever Reich says to do - do JUST THE OPPOSITE and all will be well!

--- IMPEACHED WILLY ....

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The question is, if we do this federal bailout, who should pay for it.
If you look at it as an incidence of benefit and an incidence of tax, it looks to me that
1. Asset holders benefit, while those who own no assets benefit little;
2. Wage earners without assets suffer the most---SOOO
3. I would propose repealing the capital gains tax and using the added revenue to pay the interest on the debt or losses we will be assuming from this
4. I would also propose that if a mortgagee gets a discount, then the government should be able to capture some of the gain on a resale--maybe no capital gains exclusion?

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Hammer said...

A mass bankruptcy of brokers and banks will not work. The triggers on CDS would bring the capital markets and the economy to a halt. This situation is much more complicated than most people realize. Every major corporation is exposed to the CDS market,that is how debt instruments are priced. The problem is one of leverage,which can't be unwound in capital markets which are not functioning properly. The US securities industry is a heavily regulated business. The problem is not with the current laws,but the quality of enforcement. The SEC allowed leverage to get out of hand in the five brokers that now have the largest problems.The FDIC allowed too much leverage in the banks with off balance sheet vehicles. There is no good solution,but I am afraid the Paulson/Bernanke plan is the only one that will allow an orderly unwinding.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Blogger Nicholas Weaver said...

Dr Reich: there seems to be a fundimental disagreement between you and Dr DeLong down the hall.

IF I'm interpreting the arguments correctly, DeLong is arguing that there is a metastable equilibrium between "high trust" and "low trust", and that not only should there be an attempt to orderly reduce the supply of risky assets, but also an attempt to return to a "high trust" state:

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/09/understanding-t.html

Your argument seems to be focused entirely on supply. On one hand, it doesn't improve things back to a "high trust" state, but on the other it doesn't presuppose that such state existed and can be made to exist in the future.

Are there any plans for a debate between you two on campus? There seems to be an interesting fundamental disagreement here.

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just wish everytime someone quotes "keep people in their homes" they would think about the "little guy" who tried to warn the other "little guy" to not get in over their head.. I just wish for once they would think about the group of us living in 1000 sq ft homes that did not fall for the "american dream".. If they keep ignoring us "they" may have a whole new set of crimmals on their hands to deal with.. You can't imagine how angry this makes me when this credit crisis was so obvious to so many of us that we sat on the sidelines and had to miss all of the "fun" only to have to pay for it sill..

Mark my words.. This will be the next big challenge.. We are one pissed off group of people..

Friday, 19 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just hope that someone can get to Obama, and tell him how angry the average Joe is about this bailout.

McCain is scoring big on this one, coming out against the establishment and his own party (no matter how disingenuous).

To a surprising degree, the folks I talked with today at the supermarket and on the phone feel strongly that this bailout is:

a)going to destroy the country and b) benefits the wealthy and will hurt them. I have also heard praise for McCain from the most stalwart Democrats.

The Democrats are center stage in this bale-out.

Obama has only a few days in which to assert leadership, and chart a plausible course.

He has to show some courage and independence from Wall Street and from his own party. The stakes are very high, both politically and economically.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Blogger New England Opinion said...

Phil Gramm ought to be sent to prison for his role in authoring legislation that led to this financial mess as well as his role in creating the Enron loophole that contributed to the meteoric rise of crude oil due to diminished regulatory oversight.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Blogger ty_010 said...

RE notsofast: "Very interesting and creative idea. I can already hear the crybabies on Wall Street whining that they wouldn't be getting their losses socialized under a plan like this."

But depending on how the plan was structured they would. The safety net part of the plan, that is. A safety net on mortgages would presumably keep some homeowners from defaulting, taking some of the risk away from the overextended companies. A very interesting set of ideas.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Blogger Daniel said...

Every time I hear folks say Obama's tax plan is "income redistribution" from rich to poor, I can't help wonder what the last 8 years of economic structure and this bailout are - its income redistribution from the poor (or financially cautious) to the rich (or financially irresponsible). Republicans obviously believe in income redistribution, as long at is to their wealthy business constituents.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous John G said...

The showstopper in this matter always seems to come to the point that if "something isn't done" the real economy will suffer a disaster of epic proportions. Never mind the echo of every bad hostage movie - "Just stay calm, hand over your wallets and nobody will get hurt". What nobody seems to be pointing out is that the price tag on this bailout is approaching the net credit needs of the entire non-financial business sector for a year. According to the Flow of Funds, non-financial business sector borrowing averaged $566bn over the past ten years. I really think we need to question the efficiency of a bailout proposal that runs in the hundreds of billions of dollars, aimed at keeping intact an institutional framework that has so manifestly failed to intelligently allocate capital. If the federal government is going to be in the business of supporting debt markets, let them go to the commercial paper market, let them go to the corporate debt market and use the money to keep funds available to the non-financial sector that we all are so concerned about.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

banks should be banks, financial banks should be banks ,, and the idea that everyone should own a home is a great idea .. but the reality is thathave no money down ..and bad credit one should not be allowed or able to get a loan.. that is the seed of this mess... i beleive even dead people were able to get a loan in the past 10 yrs....

my parents worked and saved and bought a house in their budget...

that is the way it should be, not the way it became in the last 10 yrs, dems and republicans are to blame.. it takes both of them to pass something and to draft something

as for reich's plan i don;t like it, the world does not work like that.. we do not live in a utopia, as for paulson's plan - not a big fan of it either but i think it is a better plan overall... the markets are based on the confidence/beleif one has in it.. not on financial numbers which can be manipulated . as history has proven over and over agian... as such the govt is our mom, and she is cleaning up the mess (one in this case caused by her too)

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Robert,
Why not have the gov. pay of all main street americans mortgages.
Then we could use our mortgage money and put it back into the economy.
Talk about a stimul;us package?
Thanks,

Wil

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Frank Thomas said...

Dr. Reich,

Daniel said it so well:

The Republicans accuse Obama´s tax plan of being income (and wealth) redistribution from the Rich to the Poor. But under a Republican administration, the last 8 years and bailouts have been income redistribution from the Poor (or financially cautious) to the Rich (or financially irresponsible).

Obama´s tax ideas are typical of his using all corners of his pragmatic, alert brain. He knows there´s a huge growing Wealth concentration in the top 10% of households vs. the bottom 90%. He knows that the bottom 80% of households have had stagnant wages for two decades while the top 20% have seen real income growth. He knows, unlike the financial genius, McCain, that tax cuts desperatly needed for the working middle class must be somewhat offset with some progressivity in taxation for those earning above $250,000. Otherwise, Deficit levels will reach the moon, if they are not already there. He knows the 2009 Deficit forecast of $500 Billion plus possible added Deficits of +- $200-500 Billion in for bailouts of AIG and Fannie/Freddie, make progressive tax increases inevitable to help cover essential ... alaos essential for revitalizing, job generating Investments in our economy that now, no doubt, must be sharply reduced because of the huge still unknown writeoff liabilities of recent bailouts... and more bailouts to come.

Obama´s talent is his ability to confront pragmatically the KNOWN KNOWNS as well as the KNOWN UNKNOWNS --that is to say we know there are some things we do not know.

McCain´s talent is being preoccupied with the UNKNOWN UNKNOWNS -- the ones we don´t know we don´t know.

For McCain wants to reduce taxes on all fronts without the slightest idea of the impact on Deficits and how to balance the Federal Budget Inflows and Outflows over the next 4 years ... taking into consideration the Stimulus Investments required to regenerate and modernize our economy.

His heart and soul, despite his sudden working middle-class conversion to the contrary, are the personification of the same old false dogma of TRICKLE UP prosperity in order to have TRICKLE DOWN prosperity (or better said, breadcrumbs) for the rest of us.

Nice man, McCain, with good intentions, but not for these complex, challenging times ... where the income and safety-net pains of Mainstrean Americans, a decayed social-infrastructure, a 3rd class health care system, and a sickening dependence on the oil sheiks, a chaotic, out-of-control financial system have for so long been ignored.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Frank Thomas said...

Dr. Reich,

correction: 2nd paragraph, 14th sentence:

...increases inevitable to help cover added Deficits ... also essential for revitalizing

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Robert Reich needs to be at the table with Schumer, Pelosi and
Reid. Otherwise the Democrats are
fumbling the ball again for Middle Class. Forget Rober Rubin and
Summers. Its time for Main Street to be represented in bail out talks
and Robert Reich is the most qualified of all!

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I honestly never thought I would agree with you. Let these poorly run business go. The markets need to create their own "new" trust, not get insurance for bad business decisions. Even if pigs with lipstick can fly as evidenced at http://www.boppoll.com.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Mike Alexander said...

I've been trying to argue this meme with no success. It seems obvious to me that the cause of the current problems is the real estate bubble.

And it seems obvious to me that a major component in causing the real estate bubble was low interest rate policy in the early 2000's. I *know* that the low interest rate policy was because of the stock market bubble collapse.

I am a student of stock market history (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595132421) I know that the 1990's stock bubble was completely unprecedented in at least two ways: (1) market valuations reached extreme all-time highs and (2) there was a capital gains tax cut made when the market was *already* modestly overvalued (recall Greenspan's Irrational Exuberance speech 7 months earlier).

It seems to me that the the purpose of reducing capital gains taxes is to promote capital gains, that is rising asset prices. Passing a capital gains tax in 1997 promoted rising stock prices in an already overvalued market, which is the definition of a bubble. Congress cut capital gains taxes again in 2003, this time in the face of record valuations in the real estate market with the same bubble-inducing effect as the previous cut.

It seems inescapable that capital gains tax cuts created our current problems.

This seems completely obvious to me. Why hasn't this idea gained any traction?

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let the companies go under.

let the "poor little guy" with a 401k eat it.

This is entirely the result of out of control greed on the main street level, the taxpayer is to blame.

as long as the tax payer is over 45 that is.

The boomers caused this because they all demanded to be rich, well they were on paper throughout the 90s.

as one of their children i can't help but resent that we have a massive bill to pay for the "do nothing" generation.

on top of the bill for all this the boomers also left us crumbling roads, an antiquated power grid without enough stations, a fuel shortage, failed schools and a host of meaningless social programs that waste money and time.

nope let it all fail, and lets start over from nothing and if you're close to retirement and get wiped out, too bad.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr Reich,

Without a bailout our entire financial system would stop. So forget politics and accept where we are and think about the least expensive solution to getting cash into the hands of banks (vs theoretical valued paper)

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Reich,

Well put, This is like the Iraq War Scare. The only way to unclog the system is to let it burn. The only way to purge the system is to let the cycle turn full circle.
So what if a few more institutions fail. I am amused. Good luck to all.

Jim Elam

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all this bastards (CEOs,Executives,sales assocaties,involved with getting us in this) made millions selling these loans and they are allowed to ran away from it.

This stupid goverment lets people like this get away.

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My thoughts...my father served in WWII came back, married, raised 4 children on his salary, he was not a wealthy man. Owned his own home, used his GI Bill and did not live beyond his means. We have the right now generation, I have never seen so many kids with cell phones in my life. We had one black desk phone in the house for the entire family, this country needs to get back to family values and that does not include 6 cars per family. What ever happened to saving your money for a down payment on a house that one can afford? The lenders, builders, are just as much responsible for this mess, fraud is in this mess with a CAPITAL FRAUD! Why would anyone even consider a BAILOUT without holding these lenders accountable? Why would we let this CEO from Lehman Brothers walk away with 65 Mil a year for poor business practices without him paying back this over payment for a job not done well? So we reward him!? The tax payer can send a loud message at the Polls, either you listen now, or listen then...dont VOTE for any of them, its time to take America back. Why are we paying double fuel costs in Iraq for US Jets to fight their WAR??? hello folks, time to get busy, write your Congress, Senator, and yes the Pres! Listen now or Listen later!

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Dundee said...

We am boiling mad that all but a very few legislators are bending over backwards to jump on board with the Bush administration's HUGE bailout of Wall Street. Let us all calmly look at it and then STOP it DEAD in its tracks.

It is NOT our or the majority of American's fault.

The government is taking our hard earned money and giving it to their wealthy Wall Street friends. The companies that failed must be left to fail. The government would force me and you to take responsibility for our actions. Now it is time for big business to feel our PAIN.

We are Americans. We are Strong and Brave. We are not Afraid. We will live through an AIG failure.

Do NOT let the administration that has lied to us about so many things give our money away.

This plan will not only reward failure and keep the leaders that failed in power, but it will also make certain that there will be NO funds available for healthcare, education, and infrastructure rebuilding for the rest of us. Remember, there are people in Houston and Galveston still hurting from Hurricane Ike.

Dundee Maples
Joan Hiraki

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Anonymous Cory said...

I don't understand how people can support this bailout unless you are with the companies in some way. Look, if the government has the power to release 700billion to the companies and back up their greedy practices, then is has the power to give the people who work 50+ hours a week so they can eat overpriced food and keep a house that is valued at next to nothing, money to back them up.

It is much easier to let the companies fail from their own policies and back up the retirement funds and ensure people who need help obtain it. This bailout WILL NOT work period! All this bailout does is allow the companies to loan more at a time when companies won't be able to pay it back for several years. In essence, this bailout screws over the middle and lower classes, and ensures the employees and shareholders they get their salary and returns.

The people need to stand up to these elitists for once. By allowing this so called "government" to freely bailout bad practices, you are essentially destroying the fundamentals of capitalism and how it is supposed to work. I say cleanse the system from these greedy ignorant fools, and show some support to the people who pay tax dollars each year and are really struggling. The government has the power to do so, and it should!

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Blogger Intelligent Designer said...

This is an obscene transfer of money from tax payers to financial institutions. I think there is a better was to handle this crisis and it should have been done a long time ago.

CONGRESS NEEDS TO OUTLAW PREDITORY BUSINESS PRACTICES. For example, I am willing to bet that almost everyone who can't pay there mortgages also has a pile of credit card debt and that they are paying like 29.9% interest on that borrowed money. That's obscene. Credit card companies should only be allowed to charge a maximum of 12% interest. Also if there is debt at more than one rate on the card the debt should be rotated out in the order that it was acquired. Currently credit card companies rotate out the lowest interest rate debt first.

Putting a 12% cap on credit card debt would put hundreds of dollars a month in the hands of many struggling homes owners that could keep them from going into foreclosure.

And what about those cell phone contracts? And how about reinstating the uptake rule?

Saturday, 20 September, 2008  
Blogger Ryan said...

The bailout is ridiculous, and not needed, and only taxes future generations. (And both candidates want to increase govt spending?) NESARA as drafted by Dr. Barnard is the only way out of our fiscal and monetary mess. Force balanced budget, abolish income and capital taxes in favor of 14% sales tax on everything else except rents, groceries, insurance, and medical services; new monetary tools to ensure 0% inflation; abolish compound interest on secured loans in favor of simple monetization fee, and require principals be paid before before banks are allowed to collect on the monetization fee. No payment no matter how small will always reduce a debt to zero, banks more willing to prevent foreclosures and will turn around funds for more loans sooner. No more of this pay for 2.5 houses just to own 1. Pay for just 1.5 and be done with it in 17 years. National debt paid off in 30 years while standard of living doubled within a generation. NESARA (not the hoax, but Dr. Barnard's original version). A 21st century engineered solution for a 21st century economy. Google the NESARA Institute.

Sunday, 21 September, 2008  
Anonymous fiduciaryhubris said...

Dr. Reich,

How viable would it be to set up some sort of scheme to price derivatives by fiat?

If the fundamental immediate problem is illiquidity and this problem, in turn, derives from an inability to value some of the more exotic derivatives, then wouldn't it follow that pricing them would constitute a way out of the wilderness?

What if the value of credit default swaps on a particular traunch of sub-prime 30yrs mortgages was, by direction of the Sec. of the Treasury, tied to a specific government statistic? This index would be revalued on an annual or semi-annual basis.

Certainly there needs to be significant debate about the mechanics of this operation, but its utility seems indisputable in that it would establish an empirical valuation 'floor'. More importantly, there would be a transparency - linkage to a quantifiable, underlying asset, an asset with real-world value. Yes, homes financed with sub-prime mortgages will default, but certainly not all of them. Perhaps there would be a devaluation of 30%, but at least it would be a hard number. If such a measure was combined with some sort of moratorium on foreclosures we might be able to de-accelerate the downward spiral.

At least a scheme like this would provide a start in removing the paralysis that's infecting the markets.

Sunday, 21 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, it looks like the US is getting a divorce. Both spouses (the public/greedy bches)have run up debt and now they are charging house payments on their credit cards. One will win in the short run and the other will win in the long.
The one that didn't see it coming will be left holding the bill and will have very rough times ahead. There will be much mud slinging. Have no doubts, this will happen and it will very much be a one sided deal. But, it really isn't. We all have a part in this and got exactually what we asked for.
This can be a good thing for all eventually, if we learn. It does look like a divorce any way you spin it and the analogy works. PS Bches is a generic term kind of.

Sunday, 21 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact that there are so many comments tells me that there is not enough dialogue between representatives and constituents on this bail-out issue. I for one am scared shtless by the prospect of a worthless greenback in favor of a stablized wall-street. I see this country as no longer being a democracy but a capitalist-driven oligarchy, and for that I am called a communist by the likes of money-gurus guys like Dave Ramsey. Look, I am just a working stiff with a master's degree trying to survive. As an Architect we are in a record 14 month negative billing, more inflation will anhillate our profession. Anyway...thanks Mr. Reich for letting me vent to someone.

Sunday, 21 September, 2008  
Anonymous jcbowyer@hotmail.com said...

Dr. Reich,

I share you concern.

To me this bailout feels like the bailout of the titantic where the boats are distributed based on the price of your ticket.

I think the common person is going to do most of the bailing while remaining left out of most of the rescue.

Titanic “Trickle Down” Rescue Plans: I'm From the Government and I'm Here to Help
at
http://bowyer.spaces.live.com/default.aspx
Titanic “Trickle Down” Rescue Plans: I'm From the Government and I'm Here to Help
at
http://bowyer.spaces.live.com/default.aspx

Sunday, 21 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With interest rates kept so low for so long by the Fed, didn't that cause the mal-investment that followed? Not that it was directly targeted to go to bad mortgages, but rather that is where it found it's outlet.
With the Fed given the ability to oversee the mortgage market - but not doing so - the surge of liquidity found it's weak spot to break through and flood the system.
$700 Billion would be a lot of money to put into the hands of those homeowners struggling to pay their mortgages - but that would be called "socialism", wouldn't it?

Sunday, 21 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with most of you. Where is my bailout plan... ???

Sunday, 21 September, 2008  
Anonymous Thomas W said...

Sarah Palin: glib & incompetent. Just another Bush/ Rove candidate, but wearing lipstick.

Vote four more years! Another war & more financial mismanagement, if you're lucky.

Several wars & a major depression.. if you're not.

Sunday, 21 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

22, 2008 7:18 am
Write your congressmen people, and quick, and let them know how you think. It's your only chance to keep from getting saddled with the bill for this mess. Here's a link that gives the email addresses of every Senator and Representative in Congress by state and district.

http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm

Monday, 22 September, 2008  
Blogger Kevin said...

The patient is terminal. The national debt ceiling is a joke. The acquisition of AIG added FIVE TRILLION dollars to the debt and nobody even mentions it.

Monday, 22 September, 2008  
Blogger Anna said...

Professor-
Why is no one questioning the 400 million shares that Henry Paulson owns of Goldman Sachs and how his proposal will allow taxpayer money to go help Goldman Sachs' problems!?!?!?!
Just this morning, GS has been allowed to change their status as bank holding companies to stay in business! Could that be the result of Paulson calling up his buddy Bernanke?? What a joke!
Paulson belongs behind bars, not the Secretary's desk!

Monday, 22 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the Directors of these firms - they failed. The directors approve the big salaries and bonus packages. No one even know who they are. Why do they get a well paid free ride???

Monday, 22 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course, only time will tell how effective this "bail out" will really be, but it might serve us all to refamilarize ourselves with the Book of Revelations and the widom in "as a man sows so does he reap".
Also, has anyone considered how much of last week's "rally" is contributable to short sellers scrambling to cover?

Respectfully yours,
Newposition07

Monday, 22 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at all this pad paper one piece at a time. Find out who profited on this fraud and make them pay it back. In cash,property or jail time.

Monday, 22 September, 2008  
Anonymous Democrat said...

Problem " uninformed voter "
Solutoin " informed voter "
Cause of this was Deregu_ation
It started during Bil_ Cl_ntons term.
Prevenative measure: Go to work,
pay your house payments, student loans etc. and vote.
Oh, send the illegal welfareers and illegals to Mexico.
Problem Fixed.

Monday, 22 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad Idea im still trying to figure out who thinks this is a good idea. I have a couple of questions? First off how does the middle class and poor benefit from this?... When i say middle class and poor i beleive we are talking about 95% of the population. Corrrect me if im wrong. Whatever happened to free enterprise? Not my fault big business made big bad businees deals. How are they getting away with this middle class?....

Tuesday, 23 September, 2008  
Anonymous steppenwolf said...

In the meantime, Joe Fund Manager get's paid $3 million a year to take assinine risks on taxpayer-owned money - and we were sold that the 401K was the way to go for retirement. We'll average 10-12% per year. It's the only way we can get matching funds from our employer anymore - no more profit sharing. Well, this is stealing isn't it? The fund managers buy mortgage-backed funds and help prop up the 5% down ARM purchaser.
Now we're going to bail out those companies that are hurting because of these risks. Assinine.

Tuesday, 23 September, 2008  
Anonymous oyvey said...

Do not BAILOUT the CEOS. The bailout will eventually cost over 2 trillion dollars possibly more. What they are trying to do is get the first 700 billion so the CEO's and senior executives who caused this problem with their irresponsible conduct will get their nice severance packages and keep their yachts and French chalets. It is too late to solve the problem. Nature must take it's course. The economy will recover by 2011 and we will have 700 billion in the bank. The same 700 billion we did not give to the CEOs.

Tuesday, 23 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I no longer see that political leaders know better than us as to how the world and main street America works. If we want to get credit flowing on main street and take care of the middle class, why don't we identify high performing community banks and fund them rather tahn than data-driven, impersonal monoliths. Task one- review 2.1 million pending foreclosures to ensure match of real income, loan product and real estate.

Tuesday, 23 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I want to know is where did all the money go from all the homeowners who have been paying their mortgages on time? Far more of them than not I'd guess based on the foreclosure rate.
As a person who manages to make their loan payments in these times, I want to know why I'll, essentially, be paying my mortage twice - every month and via the bailout.
This smells to me of another Bush & company tactic for lining the pockets of his buddies with our tax dollars.
Will there be any consequences for those responsible? When will the CEO's, etc be held to the same standards as the general public, bankruptcy has real consequences to small-business owners, to regular folks who get stuck with monster medical bills in spite of monthly insurance payments, etc, etc.
If this bailout happens, I expect (I do know it won't happen) to promptly receive the clear and free titles to my home, car, stove, etc.

Wednesday, 24 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too do not agree in this bailout plan for many of the same reasons posted. But this is food for thought. Once we all pony up this 700 Billion dollars we will be investing in a new company called the US Government. We should all not wory for these reasons, the US Government is smarter then Wall Street, the US Government is extremly good with managing money, The US Government has never lied or exagerated the truth on the American people, and last but not least they will be using GAAP far better then any of these Wall Street Companies and Banks. If you believe any of these last statements I have a bridge in Brookly I can sell you for 700 Billion dollars. I'd rather see all these companies and banks fail and have the government back stop the American citizens that paid into this 700 Billion dollars during the proceeding reorganization of our Economy. A baby does not learn things are hot until it burns it hands. Shame on those who have put us in this situation!!!

Wednesday, 24 September, 2008  
Blogger Peter said...

Western Australia has the answer to how to deal with the housing motgage crisis. In return for the borrower accepting a full recourse liability for a percentage of the debt, the government creates a shared equity arrangement for each home owned and a fixed interest coupon. On the sale of the house or subsequent contribution by the original owner their percentage increases. They get a stable living environment. The Governments contribution is secure for XX years. We call it a shared equity scheme see www.keystart.com.au/ or google shared equity. The benefits to the US is that the money being pumped in is "still there" and wont be pinched by the super bonusses to equity managers

Thursday, 25 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The runners of this "great" nation have lost their collective mind. Let them eat cake! Seeds and canning jars are not a bad idea.

Thursday, 25 September, 2008  
Anonymous ede Robinson said...

VERY SIMPLE

COMPROMISE NOW!

UNIVERSAL HEALTH INSURANCE AS A COMPROMISE FOR THE WALL STREET BANK BAILOUT

THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT
THE PEOPLE GET UNIVERSAL HEALTH INSURANCE.


UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE NOW OR NO BAILOUT!!

Thursday, 25 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HOMEOWNER BAILOUT PIECE...
If we are going to bail everyone out, we should start with Government purchase of bad loans for owner occupied properites. These could be bought for 75 cents on the dollar and refinanced to 60 year loans accompanied by the restriction that the parties involved could not take any other mortgage credit until they pay them off either by selling or refinancing. Everybody wins and people don't lose thier homes!
The disincentive for those of us who can pay are mortgages is obvious (avoid extending and restricting our credit).
The saving grace for people who got in over thier heads would be real and affordable both to them and the taxpayers.
This is only one piece of this, but it seems like a no brainer.

Thursday, 25 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do not support this bill to bail out the bad debt without the fallowing.

1. Full funding the FBI to investigate who and what caused this. Have them approve the purchases and collect data for evidence. This should come out of the billions we are barrowing to truly solve this problems.

2.Consider a investment in a capital investment to bring the power grid up to a point that sparcly populated areas could harvest power and redistribution back to the grid.

3. Moratoriums' on foreclosures until some reworking of the contracts could be negotiated. This will help current home owners and prices stabilized.

4. The trickle down Regan economics do not work so putting several committees to invest in community credit ,smaller banks and main St. so our nation can be strengthened. The world might see we the people are truly a great nation and willing to earn our place in the world as a decent law abiding people. I am tired of being perceived as a American as soulless.

5. A small portion with the very strict oversight of the FBI buy assets from distressed companies. The guiding principles of investment with returns possible and some guarantees'.

6. put in regulation, oversight committees and restructure with enforcement provisions.

7. When those who have caused this and benefitted from these problems are found, that we get remedial damages by liquidating all assets ( cars, houses, fur natures, boats and account est.) to pay back the debt.

* Absolutely no new powers to the executive branch. I believe this would get you the public support and serve justice.



Thank you,

Thursday, 25 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It now looks as if the bailout may not go through. The money markets have already been stabilized, so we have some time. Hundreds of academic economists have signed a Letter to Congress advocating delaying this extraordinarily panicked action. Everyone has painful memories of how we were hustled into Iraq, with the same kind of panic.

Thursday, 25 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have an idea. It might seem little too abvious that some one might have already mentioned about it, but let us say we have close to 20 million homes who currently has problems in terms of their equity. They probably owe close to 30% more than the value of the home. What if Government take all thes loans and pay the difference to the banks. Let us take an example. Let us take 200k loan house and let us think that the current market value is 150k. Government can pay this 50k to the bank and bring its value close to the value that is owed. This way all the tax payers will be happy because their home is back to the value. The banks are happy because they got paid and the economy will be back. The government has to put a rule in place that if the owner sells the house more than the price (in this case it is 150k) then the extra money should go back to Government. This is the best solution which i think if implemented will solve all the problems atleast financially.

Thursday, 25 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you seen this? http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,23040466-922,00,00.html

Thursday, 25 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK.....here's a plan I could live with.


I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child.
So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free.

So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.

A husband and wife team has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.

Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads

Put away money for college - it'll be there

Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

Buy a new car - create jobs

Invest in the market - capital drives growth

Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who
lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting
back. And, of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of
trickling out a puny $1000.00 ('vote buy') economic incentive that is being
proposed by one of our candidates for President.

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it.

Sell off its parts.

Let American General go back to being American General.

Sell off the real estate.

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion

We Deserve It Dividend more than do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5
Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Friday, 26 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a copy of a letter that I wrote to Sen. Obama:
I agree with most of your policies, however I do not agree with any type of bailout for Wall Street because:
1. It will increase our national debt and make it harder to achieve the goals that you want during your term in office.
2. It will weaken the Dollar, cause inflation, and could hurt our credit rating.
3. It will not restore confidence. It will only show people how bad things are.
4. Our tax money should not be used in such a manner.
5. This problem manifested itself in the lower & middle class; and a bailout would be trying to repair it by giving money to the upper class.
I don't want to just complain without offering a potential solution. I suggest that instead of another stimulus package; that the $700 Billion be spent on GREEN Energy. Fill the empty abandon factories with workers making wind turbines, solar parts, electric cars, etc. This will create jobs; stimulate investments; and curb global warming. Lenders will be more likely to lend to these projects if the U.S. is involved. You could also sell "Energy Bonds" instead of war bonds. A free check from the government is nice, but the money doesn't go too far. People want to stand on their own two feet; not receive handouts. It would give people a sense of accomplishment; a common united cause. Once workers started making money, credit would once again free up. The problem with the bailout is that if it does not work, we are out of bullets! It could be the straw that broke the camel's back!

Friday, 26 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with many of the posted comments here. We could do so much more with the money being proposed. The main problem is that financial markets really don't provide a solution for dramatically revaluing downwards assets classes. The solution it has provided is in effect varying forms of economic collapse.


The 'moral hazard' by bailing out is serious. I agree with at least one poster here who commented that it isn't just the banks that are at fault but the idiot borrowers who can't do one simple lick of math. (I paid 20% down on my house and it was paid off in < 10 years. I am now debt free.) There is in effect no way to go after those people, or to punish them. But hey defaulting on a house will definately ruin your credit rating.


I agree we really need to pump some money into alternative/green energy. I have another analysis paper about to publish on this issue and interestingly I see people talking about the answer, but not WHY it's so critical. We must electrify our transportation system and get rid of ICE for conversion of fuel energy into mechanical energy. This step alone could eliminate 1/2 of our substantial imports. CNG, solar, wind, anything else which nets us more energy, and improves the efficiency of distribution and use is key. Yeah when we have time I guess.


But back to the problem at hand the financial crisis. My proposal found at Credit Crisis Solution proposes the Federal reserve create a 2nd Federal reserve Note called the "Credit Crisis" Note. Then what they do is set a cash/note pay ratio for purchase of all these crap assets that need revaluing. The tenderers of the assets only get .25c of cash, .75 of CCNs (which they can value at par for their books). Then as the assets perform (or not) any extra moneys are placed into the CCN dividend/payout pool. Read the full plan in the link above for details.


The point of the above idea is that we pay for those assets predominantly with 'promises' based on another financial instrument that is determined by the governments ability to profit, or make assets perform.


The above method allows for tracking after the fact of the amount of losses needing to be taken. It also leaves 75% of the mess on the books of the origional companies. It leverages the cash by 4:1 in the bailout. It also doesn't let off the hook those financial companies that created this mess.

Finally the above proposal allows for a significant revaluation of real estate between 25-100% of the current carrying value to bring housing prices back to 'earth'.


Sincerely submitted,
R

Saturday, 27 September, 2008  
Anonymous Asher Zelig Chakansky said...

The government should take the 700 billion and start their own new lending institution.

Saturday, 27 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop this bailout now. Free enterprize means leave it alone. I can't afford a house because the values are to high. Why are we affecting there values, so we can over pay?

Sunday, 28 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Reich, and friends,

I'm against the $85,000,000, 000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000, 000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000, 000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads.
Put away money for college - it'll be there.
Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car - create jobs.
Invest in the market - capital drives growth.
Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves.
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else.

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out
a puny $1000.00 ( 'vote buy' ) economic incentive that is being proposed
by one of our candidates for President.

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it. Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.


Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
Sure it's a crazy idea that can 'never work.'
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion.
We Deserve It Dividend more than the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion

because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards,

Birk

T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your friends as it's either good for a laugh
or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!

Sunday, 28 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a few thoughts...This bailout is starting to look a lot like a "Big Brother" takeover by the government. The government will end up controling the banks and mortgages. Is the U.S. really behaving like a democratic govenment with an economy based on capitalism? I don't think so.

Also, how much is this new expanded branch of the Federal Government going to cost to run? You can bet it will be a fortune.

What will happen to our free trade system when there are only several banks left standing.

It all adds up to too much power in too few hands. They've already proved themselves incompetent, or am I being paranoid when I ponder the idea that the government might have caused this entire thing to happen with full knowledge of what would transpire?

Sunday, 28 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am just curious why the people that are asked to comment on the market melt-down and the need for a bailout are all industry insiders? Those who profit from a corrupt or irrational system probably are not the most unbiased persons to be asked opinions concerning their own mistakes.

Furthermore, Mr. Reich, would you comment on the total irrationality of an entire world's economic well-being dependent upon the emotional fortune-telling of a bunch of high-powered flim-flam artists called the Stock Markets? I mean, really, I never invested and never will. Maybe I won't become wealthy, but I also won't ever be broke. If I could choose my taxes, as in a fee-for-service type situation, I would even become well-off and only pay for what I use and nothing else. Why isn't that a part of capitalism these days?

Monday, 29 September, 2008  
Blogger bob said...

Gas prices down to 2.39? Main street is good!!!

Monday, 29 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, it looks like McBush's media stunt of flying into Washington to bring his party together didn't work... they told him to leave. He offered no value to the process.
He was ineffective at reaching across the isle and getting things done... as he quite often espouses... he is the master !!
He looked like a buffoon. His party won’t follow him or his twin BabyBush.

Monday, 29 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob....
Your net worth is down much further then any cost savings for gas.
Plus you don't need gas once you lose your job...
I wouldn't celebrate too much... it may be short lived.

Monday, 29 September, 2008  
Anonymous Barbara said...

I would like to ask you Dr Reich what you think about Dennis Kucinich's plan.

1. Health Care for All: Insurance companies make money not providing health care. As the co-author of HR 676, a universal, single-payer, not-for-profit health care system, Medicare for All, I understand millions of Americans want health care that is accessible and affordable.

Medicare for All will help businesses large and small, create jobs as well as save the jobs of thousands of people including those of doctors, nurses and other healthcare workers who are currently leaving medicine because it is run by the insurance companies. $1 in every 3 dollars of the $2.4 trillion spent annually in America for health care goes to the insurance companies. If we take that money ($800 billion in unproductive wasteful spending) and put it directly into care, we will have enough money to cover everyone. We are already paying for Medicare for all, but not receiving it. HR 676 changes that!

2. Prescription Drug Benefit for Seniors: HR 6800 is the MEDS Act, which provides a fully paid prescription drug benefit, under Medicare, for all seniors. I wrote this bill to help alleviate the economic pressure that comes from the high cost of prescription drugs. We can pay for it by letting the government negotiate drug prices with the pharmaceutical companies as well as by permitting re-importation.

3. Stop the Oil Companies’ Price Gouging: As you know, I was the first one to step up to challenge of the corrupt price gouging and market speculation of the oil companies by proposing a windfall profits tax, on oil and natural gas companies, with revenues put into tax credits for the purchase of fuel-efficient American-made cars. However, it may be that nationalization is the only way to put an end to the oil companies' sharp practices.

4. Protecting the American Homestead: As Chairman of the Domestic Policy Oversight Subcommittee, I am working to protect your basic right to have a roof over your head, whether as an owner or renter. I have investigated and helped to expose the manipulation of mortgage markets, and I am crafting a new federal policy so that neighborhoods with the highest number of foreclosures get the most help.

5. Jobs for All: Congressman LaTourette and I have co-authored the bi-partisan New Deal-type jobs program, HR 3400, "Rebuilding America's Infrastructure." It will create millions of good-paying new jobs rebuilding our roads, bridges, water systems and sewer systems.

6. American Manufacturing Policy: I am drafting the American Manufacturing Policy Act, which for the first time, will state that the maintenance of U.S. steel, automotive, and aerospace industries are vital to our national economic security and must be maintained through integrated public-private cooperation, new trade policies, and investment.

7. Works Green Administration: I am also drafting plans for a green New Deal jobs program, in which the government creates millions of jobs by incentivizing the design, engineering, manufacturing, distribution and maintenance of millions of wind and solar micro-technologies for millions of homes and businesses, dramatically lowering energy costs and reducing our dependence on oil.

8. Fair Trade: The U.S. has lost millions of good-paying jobs, and more jobs have been out-sourced. As you know, I have helped to lead the way in opposition to trade giveaways. I strongly urge repeal of NAFTA. We must include workers' rights, human rights and environmental quality principles in all trade pacts. We must also protect the Great Lakes' water resources from the reach of multi-national corporations.

9. Education for All: I know families need help with the rising cost of day care. That is why I introduced HR 4060, a universal pre-kindergarten program to ensure that all children ages 3-5 have access to full-day, quality day care.

10. Protecting Pensions: I am working to change bankruptcy laws so pensioners' claims will be first, ahead of banks, and that corporate executives who misuse workers' pension funds are subject to criminal penalties. I want to fully fund the Pension Benefit Guarantee Board.

11. Social Security: From my first moments in Congress, I have exposed Wall Street's efforts to privatize Social Security and attacked it in the Democratic Caucus when it was being proposed. Can you imagine where seniors would be today if Social Security had been turned over to the stock market? Social Security is solid through 2032 without any changes.

12. Protect Bank Deposits: I will work to make sure the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) has sufficient funds to provide for insurance of deposits up to $200,000 at all banks and savings and loans. This is an urgent matter since so many banks are said to be vulnerable.

13. Protect Investors: Bring back strong regulation to Wall Street. As Chairman of the Domestic Policy Subcommittee, I challenged the Wall Street hedge fund speculators as a threat to small investors. I intend to keep active watch over the machinations on Wall Street.

14. Strength through Peace: You'll remember when I led the effort against the ill-conceived Iraq war, which has now cost more than 4,100 US soldiers' lives, cost U.S. taxpayers between $3 trillion and $5 trillion, and resulted in the deaths of more than a million Iraqis. We must bring our troops home and end the war. We must engage in diplomacy. We must reduce the military budget, and we must stop outrageous cost overruns by the likes of Halliburton.

15. Safety in America: I am proud of my work for peace. In July 2001, I introduced a bill, which today is HR 808, that for the first time creates a comprehensive plan to deal with the issues of violence in American society, particularly domestic violence, spousal abuse, child abuse, gang violence, gun violence, racial violence, and violence against gays by establishing a Cabinet-level Department of Peace and Restorative Justice. This proposal has sparked a national movement and when implemented will save tax payers millions of dollars.

16. Monetary Policy: It is long past the time that we looked at the implications of our debt based monetary system, the privatization of money created by the 1913 Federal Reserve Act, the banks fractional reserve system and our debt-based economic system. Unless we have dramatic reform of monetary policy, the entire economic system will continue to accelerate wealth upwards. I am currently working on drafting legislation for an 'American Monetary Act' to address these and other issues in order to protect the economic well being of America.

Monday, 29 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How to make the bail-out work

Rather than handing billions of dollars to banks and money managers who have proven they can’t loan money responsibly, put the money where it really is needed. Instead of placing the money in a few large financial institutions, place the money in the hands of millions of taxpaying mortgage holders who are at risk of losing their homes

1. Any mortgage in foreclosure as of today, the federal government will guarantee the amount in arrears to be paid as a grant to the mortgage bank on behalf of the taxpayer/mortgage holder. The home-owner will pay the amount back to the federal government at a future date (ie. 10 years) interest free. There will be a cap on the amount to be paid and the amount to be paid may only be paid for a foreclosure on a primary residence. Bail-outs on foreclosures on recreational properties and investment properties will not be allowed.
2. Any mortgage which is in pre-foreclosure default will be brought current by a payment to the mortgage holder from the federal government. The home-owner will pay the amount back to the federal government at a future date (ie. 10 years) interest free.
3. The mortgage holder of any mortgage brought back from foreclosure will be required to re-finance the failed mortgage with a fixed rate of 4% and 30 years with no closing costs to the home- owners. This is a cost of poor business practices to be carried by the financial industry.
4. Any financial institution which has suffered heavy losses due to home-foreclosures already completed may receive a federal loan in the amount of those losses already incurred within the last 12 months. This money will be repaid to the federal government plus a small interest rate charge within 10 years.
5. Any financial institution accepting federal bail-out funds will immediately make its financial records transparent to federal auditors.
6. Any loan originator who accepted/approved a loan which clearly was a poor credit risk shall be fined 5 times the amount of any commissions received for the poor loan and be banned from future financial activity.

7. It should cost a lot less than $700 billion to get this done.


If you agree that home-owners can be better trusted than the bankers who created this problem, contact you congressional representatives and tell them how you want the bail-out handled.

Monday, 29 September, 2008  
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Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no shortage of gas. This is a manufactured shortage – to coincide with the “crisis” on Wall Street. It is a crisis, but raised to mammoth proportions by government actions. Paulsen and Bernanke seemingly intended to cause panic, and President Bush panicked and joined in sending the “sky is falling” alarm. People should reflect upon whether there is a larger plan at work to move the United States into socialism on a monumental scale. The sinister effect of a bailout plan will be the destruction of the US Constitution.

The present “gas shortage” is confined to the Southeast - the “Bible Belt.” The most conservative citizens in the nation live here. These are the people who must be moved to panic in order for them to allow their Congressmen and Senators to continue this march to socialism.

A bailout of Wall Street will essentially result in the taking of private property by the government. Since our freedom, our liberty is based on ownership of private property, this is the next step in taking away the rights of the citizens of this once great nation.

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The American people need to be bailed out!... especially the over- taxed, over-stressed middle class who work to grind out a living and pay their bills. It is OUR money they are talking about giving to the "Wall Street Harvard egghead" who have looted this country! Give the money to the American people with stipulations, for example like: 1) mortgages get paid off; 2) credit cards get paid off; 3) a certain % of the money given is invested in a retirement plan(s), etc., etc.

At its very worst.... such a plan would infuse money back into the markets and the economy.

At its very worst after such a plan.... banks may have to give loans at very low interest rates in order to keep their doors open.

It's time to stop feeding those who have fed upon us for so many years!!! Those getting mega-bonuses while their companies are heading into the crapper, those who bail with golden parachutes and those who have tricked the American public into a false sense of security while their bank accounts continue to swell!!!!

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Anonymous Tom said...

Bail out
Bush said the 700 billion dollar bailout pailed in comparison to the 1 trillion dollars lost in the stockmarket yesterday.


Mr President the difference is this


700 billion bailout is US Taxpayer funds. "Its NOT yoours to give"


1 Trillion Dollars is investor and banker money or private citizen capital.


Why should folks with so much expect the working folks tax dollars take away there risk and rescue or "bail them out" Have those with wealth resulting from the stock market "Given Back"?


For the last 10 years during the wall street boom did this "wealth" reach the avg Joe? If you take the risk accept the responsibility. Do not expect American taxpayers to fund your insane wealthy lifestyles. If you make it on your own accord great good for you thats what capitalism is all about, but if you fail then experience the Natural consequences of your actions like the rest of Americans. I thought that is what a free market was all about? Do we all have to live by the rules or just the have nots?

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Blogger Black Widow said...

Tuesday, September 30, 2008
Why call it recession part III, the Bail out
Many people today are probable wondering what the bail out means for main stream Americans and what is the bail out really about. For those who think the bail out is ONLY about Wall St big fish.
Let me share a little light on the subject. Let's start by analyzing the chain of events.

Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 The proposed Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 would do away with restrictions on the integration of banking, insurance and stock trading imposed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, one of the central pillars of Roosevelt's New Deal after the financial crisis of 1929. Under the old law, banks, brokerages and insurance companies were effectively barred from entering each others' industries, and investment banking and commercial banking were separated.

Many investment and commercial banks jump head first into the housing market lending game.

2005 JOhn Thain, Goldman Sachs CFO is appointed Chairman of the NYSE. While all the casino investment was goin on, and nobody complained. He amassed $300 million in Goldman stock. It was widely believed that Mr. Thain was also a front runner to head Citigroup. The same group that is now "saving" all the other banks. Or should I say cashing on the mistakes of other banks?One must wonder after amasing such a fortune at Goldman Sachs where these people loyalty lays.

2006 Hank Paulson, CEO of Goldman Sschs leaves the company to serve as Secretary of the treasure. After questionable investments in Patagonia, Argentina that ended up as a property of a non profit run by his son. Oh, did I forget to mention this piece of property is floating in petroleum? Opps, my mistake.

2007, the sub prime loan crisis start showing signs of the truth underlying the sourness of loans backed by air.

March we had the failure of Bear Sterns, to whom the Fed came to rescue and arranged for a purchase at 7% of their original share price.


July 2008, the Fed takes over Freddie and Fannie, the number one instruments through which the American dream of home ownership is made possible.

We had the fall of Lehman Brothers, all time number # 1 competitor of Goldman Sachs, whom the Fed of course lead by Hank Paulson allowed to fail. I wonder why....

AIG was rescued with a credit line of 85 billion dollars from the fed. I wonder who will be chasing the interest on those loans and who will be the underwriter of all those debt instruments now that ONLY two investment banks are left.... Could it be Goldman? Hmmm nobody knows.

In a brief explanation this is how the picture has been forming. Now Hank Paulson is asking for 700 billion dollars to "rescue" the economy.

But what do these 700 billion mean to the US government and the investment banks. Why would the government do that?
Could it be that the US had planned the financial crisis for a while in order to be able to enter the most profitable industry in earth for a cheap price? Now that the lending to 3rd world countries is drying off because they are outsmarting this game just as China did?. Could it be that the US has turned to lending to big institutions and is trying to turn their own citizens into suckers that will pay taxes, that will in turn be lent back to them in the form of Home mortgages to make a profit that they will never see?

Could it be that some investment banks not only knew about this but also facilitated this situation by coaching the government on how to do it?

I don't know, but it seems to me that these few investment banks that are left had something to do with everything and positioned themselves just like a kid under a pinata waiting for the free candy to fall in the floor. Because that is exactly what the price of these "rescued" banks were, "free candy".
These so called bad loans are not 100% bad, there is a lot of money to be made and not only the government has the money to purchase them, but also the power to work a deal once they have been purchased, so delinquent borrowers are able to stay in their homes and pay at least some of the debt.

Think about it, you buy the loan for 0.20 cents of the dollar, settle with the delinquent borrowers into making the loan worth 0.50 cents of the dollar and it becomes, a win situation, if you add the interest that the borrower will still pay on that loan, voilá, you have a ton of money in profits that the tax payer will never see. This would translate into the government buying a delinquent $300,000 loan at a price of $60,000 and settling with the borrower as if the price of the "new government Aided loan" were of $150,000 instead of the 300,000 they previously owed. Do you think that would solve the problem of delinquent loans? I definitely think so, and the government has the power to do it. and there is still plenty of profits to go around.

I think this is exactly what the bail out is all about.


The big question is, will this be enough as a strategy to maintain the dollar as the #1 world currency? The safe heaven? What will happen to the dollar when investors realize that US brillant GDP was based on consumer spending originated by this home equiy loans backed by thin air? What will happen when foreign investors realize that the US is a non producing country whose business have been surviving for the last 1o years may be more, by short term loans from commercial paper and ulimately IPO's that transferred the cost of the business loans to institutional investors like Wachovia that purchase these securities with American's retirement money?

Will we survive as the empire we once were or will we become the cheap labor market?

What do you think folks?

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Blogger Sandra said...

The Wall Street bailout didn’t sit well with the American public and last night I heard a suggestion that might actually help individual Americans and the country all at the same time.

President Bush and the Treasury Secretary wanted $700 billion now. What if instead, they paid every American over the age of 18 one million dollars?

There are approximately 230 million Americans in that category so right away the figure drops dramatically from 700 billion to 230 million. That would be less than ¼ of just one billion that the Treasury is currently asking for. To sweeten the deal, they could even space out the payments to the American public to $100,000 a year for 10 years. That means the initial cost this year would be only 23 million.

Imagine what that investment in the American public could do for average Americans and the economy. $100,000 is more money than working class Americans ever see unless they win the lottery. With that kind of instant cash, they could pay off credit card debt, car loans, house loans, medical bills. They could buy new cars, new houses, new furniture. They could invest in the stock market. They could go to school, learn a new trade, work on that start-up business they’ve dreamed of. For those of us who work multiple jobs, we might be able to cut back to one full-time job and finally have time to spend on hobbies. That means money to spend on things to do in those hobbies. People could go on vacations. And all of this spending is happening nationwide in small towns, big towns, rural areas and metropolitan areas, stimulating the economy throughout the year in your neighborhood and everyone else’s. Wall Street doesn’t get rewarded for bad behavior but doesn’t get punished with further drops in the stock market.

A stimulation plan that would actually stimulate the economy and get Americans back on their feet. Russell Crowe offered it with a smile on Jay Leno last night but who knows, it isn't near as expensive as the other idea and might actually help.

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

give every american 150,000 and let us spur our own economy. im not behind on my mortage payment.

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there are 300 million taxpayers , let the crooks in wallstreet and washington give us, the taxpayers, a million dollars each and 8we eilii solve our own problem

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Anonymous Chris Williams said...

Ignorance is Not BLISS!!!

The question is when do the we the American people start standing up for ourselves, myself included? This problem started in the early 1990's with Clinton's philosophy of every American owning a home(I will admit a respectable endeavor in theory) and the reliable greed of the private sector manipulating a Republican Congress. Did I say the greed of the private sector and Congress? Let me apologize for being redundant. A free open market with limited regulation spells Capitalism. A free open market with no regulation spells financial ruin. Eventually, thy(credit market)cup runneth over. Once the horse gate was opened with deregulation over the banks, there was only one way this could possibly end, with an implosion. I thought the private sector had already invested billions in reenacting "The Big Bang Theory" Ultimately, someone has to pay. That's right, yours truly and you and you and you and you,ETC... But WHY???!!!!
Being a registered Independent I do not trust anyone in Congress, yet I believe and Love this Country, The UNITED States. It's not that I believe everyone in Congress is completely corrupt, but I absolutely believe that it is the special interest groups(lobbyists) that run congress, not the voters. We might put them in office, but then they have to play the game. Lobbyist controlling legislation has never been more transparent than during the current financial debacle, I like to call "Mortgage-Gate". I know, not very original. Transparency, Over-The Counter-Discounted Derivatives (or Swaps for those in the know), Market to Mark or is it Mark to Market, are among the catchy little phrases I could have lived without adding to my somewhat limited vocabulary.
In the end, they are all guilty, including the dummies like myself who actually believed they could carry mortgages three times their income. Though in retrospect, none of us (roughly over 4 million and growing every day)would have committed our life savings, homes, business relationships, our hard earned money and the ever important FICA score to a completely "false market". This is exactly what the powers to be created, when they deregulated the banks. This, as "they" have known did not happen over night. Looking back it wasn't until about 2002 when the banks started to be really creative. Correct me if I am wrong but is it not an oxy-moron to use the word creative as a modifier for the noun, "bank". With No-Documents Required{Now repeat that three time to yourself;No-Doc. Loans},sub-prime, 25 year amortization, interest only, unconventional loans. This was all fine and dandy when the market was moving faster than appraisers could keep up with during the boom. We all new that it could not last forever, but it never occurred to us that the slope on the graph chart would fall at a 45 degree angle, right off the proverbial Equity Cliff. The question was(at least it was for me) could I loose money. In other words, at the very worst case scenario could I fire sell the property and pay off my debts plus closing cost and interest paid plus taxes. Well let's see the Bank s's appraiser, I repeat the Bank's hired appraiser says that I have $62,000.00 equity before I close with a 15%-30% appreciation annually, minus my tax right offs, h-m-m-m. Sounds good to me, where do I sign. Not so fast Skippy.
O.K. call me a whinnier, but these are only the facts Ma'am. Now, out of nowhere, we are receiving the financial weapons of mass destruction speech at the final hour. All this before Congress leaves for the Eastern Caribbean with their home in the islands. Funny how the timing just happens to coincide with Congress leaving and 45 days before the Presidential Election. If all of this wasn't comical enough, the baud ville act that the partie's candidates are putting on is just flat out ridiculous. It's like political "Hot Potato". I don't want it you take it. I'm going to Congress to work this out and stopping my campaign, that is as long as my investors, I mean financial supporters approve. Well, I can walk and chew gum at the same time. I mean I can debate and go to Congress at the same time(Mainly because I seldom vote yay or nay anyway. I mean at some point you have to really question the saneness of anyone who would want to become President of the United States at this present time. One of two things you are either a patriotic martyr for your country(McCain) or you are just a flat out a power hungry maniac. I mean if there was ever a time when a Presidential candidate could walk into the White House with two years of Senatorial experience {before that I can't seem to recall, something in Chicago or did he loose that election?} with just the simple motto of "change" and get elected as President of what I think is still the most powerful country in the world, it is with out a doubt, Now!Still haven't figured him out. Kinda of sounds like a rehearsed preacher more than a President. I believe he has some great ideas and he definitely has the public speaking and charisma thing going for him. If that is all it took then our current President would have been impeached a long time ago. George W. constantly looks like he shared himself when those eloquent s's coming rolling through the gaps in his teeth, like the winds blowing through the Himalayas. Thanks to our current President our relations overseas has been better to say the very least. Yes, I too voted for him twice, thinking somehow his morales where, I mean were intact. If you never voted for him, I'm still not convinced that I didn't choose the lesser of two evils. Although their are plenty of parents out there who would give anything to have their children back. I support our troops each and every day, but please someone tell me straight what we are still doing in Iraq to the tune of ten BILLION a month or as I like to say, ten-thousand million a month. If it is because of the nut job in Iran, who in my opinion is intelligent and flat out scary, then just tell us. I still want to believe #42 means well, but wow is he incredibly stupid! I loose I.Q. points every time I watch him. I saw his last pitch about the Bail Out. He had to look down twice after repeating $7 Billion, as though he still couldn't believe he was saying this to the American Public.I forgive him for failing speech 101, but man, please stop insulting us every time you stand up to that podium. I mean George, I will never hate you, because you are harmless mentally and I voted on the people around you, not necessarily you, but what I thought you stood for. No offense, but Please, so ever quickly just Leave! Like NOW!, as in yesterday. I have felt sorry for him and his organic built in lighting rod for disaster, but enough is enough.
As the market has shown it has an innate Darwinism resilience to rebound after falling to the center of the earth on Monday, a new record of all time 778 points.
If you want to fix the credit market, fix the average American. Remember us, the masses who buy things to keep the C.E.O's in their mega yachts and Lear jets(stocked with full bars and striper poles). The same citizens who vote to but you bunch of pin heads in office. Maybe I'm starting to sound like them; babble,babble. Is it not the same Barney Frank(less) who was defending the deregulation against the nay sayers, who is somehow still on the same banking committee voting on the "Bail Out"!! W-H-H-A-T!!!WHEN DOES THIS INSANITY STOP!!!! It's like being on the political merry-go-round from hell.
By the way, has anyone heard how the survivors of Ike and Katrina are doing?! I just received an e-mail copied from a friend of a friend who works for the National Guard. Galveston is flattened and the only thing I see is this recovering alcoholic sounding Barny Frank and should we throw $700 Billion(let me rephrase that;$700,000,000,000.00. 700 Billion sounds too nice) to bunch of cronies that made millions upon millions to fix the very problem they(Congress included) created in the first place. To add insult to injury, the very guy that has made millions off of this financial nightmare is the author of the Bill. Call me crazy, but when I borrow money from the Bank, are they not suppose to the authority on what property and a buyer are worth to the financial market. They couldn't find the billions,scratch that, Trillions of their discounted derivatives located somewhere in the the Great Abyss of Financial Cyberspace if their life depended on it, which currently it actually does. Hence the $700 Billion Bail out, oh heck let us just call it for what it is a Trillion plus give or take a few hundred Billion or so.
Want to get the ball rolling again and Restore Confidence, more like breathe life back into the markets? How about investing into the "average Joe on the street" with a revamped credit rating system(one of many things that are antiquated in our system, such as the 30 year amortization schedule), special treatment for us suckers(not total forgiveness but removing the debt from the market and the opportunity to actually let the borrower pay it back. Investing in our own people, such as Galveston for instance. What a novel idea!! If it's not straight yet, you morons on Capitol(more like Nytol) Hill, "WE ARE THE PEOPLE!!! TRANSLATED; WE ARE WALL STREET, WE OWN THE WHITE HOUSE!! YOU IDIOTS WORK FOR US, "THE PEOPLE"!!If my grammatical errors are not enough to make you believe that our educational system is in the stone age(thank goodness for Spell Check), then talk to a six grader about what they know and not how to beat some old lady up on a video game. IT IS MIND BOGGLING!! Though I digress, this Bail Out is spelled WHITE COLLAR CRIMINAL SCANDAL. It is time for "We The People" to take our country back!! Feel free to correct me on any of my comments. Unlike Washington, D.C. I'm not afraid of being wrong and actually learning something for a change.

Sincerely,
Chris Williams
St. Augustine, Florida

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Blogger jeanbridge said...

Why wouldn't this work: use the $750 billion to support homeowners in danger of foreclosure so they could pay their mortgages, eliminating further bad home-loan debt. The homeowners could pay it back, in very small increments, over time, to the government (us). Bad debt already accumulated by financial institutions would be bought up by bigger/stronger institutions who could eventually make a profit from it--or not. The smaller institutions would go under. That's what's happening now, e.g., Lehman Bros. Even people who had lost homes due to foreclosure could be offered another chance to buy back their home, at new and more reasonable terms. After all, many of the foreclosures happened when "balloon" payments became due. Strengthening from the ground up, rather than from the top down, is how I think Kucinich sees it.

Tuesday, 30 September, 2008  
Anonymous Katterine said...

Watch the REAL reason for Bailout:

Real Reason For Bailout

Wednesday, 01 October, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't buy toxic securities, make those securities less toxic. The U.S. (on behalf of its taxpayers) should offer to buy any house from a borrower facing foreclosure at, say, 90% of it's original purchase price.

Turn those homes over to the counties in which they're situated. Support those counties in the formation of volunteer management boards, granting local ownership and local responsibility for the properties' use (rental, lease, low-cost housing, etc.) and upkeep.

At least the taxpayer will get something for his/her money, and local involvement is far more likely to result in optimum outcomes for the many houses.

Thursday, 02 October, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing. The first ever global depression will go down in history horribly misunderstood. What a pathetic bunch of ignorant fools we have become. Consumer junkie credit card morons. Perfect little victims. Say that reminds me.

Don’t believe one optimistic word from any public figure about the economy or humanity in general. They are all part of the problem. Its like a game of Monopoly. In America, the richest 1% now hold ALMOST 1/2 OF ALL UNITED STATES WEALTH. Unlike ‘lesser’ estimates, this includes all stocks, bonds, cash, offshore accounts, and material assets held by America’s richest 1%. Even that filthy pig Oprah acknowledged that it was at about 50% in 2006. Naturally, she put her own ‘humanitarian’ spin on it. Calling attention to her own ‘good will’. WHAT A DISGUSTING HYPOCRITE SLOB. THE RICHEST ONE PERCENT HAVE LITERALLY MADE WORLD PROSPERITY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. Don’t fall for any of their ‘humanitarian’ CRAP. ITS A SHAM. THESE PEOPLE ARE CAUSING THE SAME PROBLEMS THEY PRETEND TO CARE ABOUT. Ask any professor of economics. Money does not grow on trees. The government can’t just print up more on a whim. At any given time, there is a relative limit to the wealth within ANY economy of ANY size. So when too much wealth accumulates at the top, the middle class slip further into debt and the lower class further into poverty. A similar rule applies worldwide. The world’s richest 1% now own over 40% of ALL WORLD WEALTH. This is EVEN AFTER you account for all of this ‘good will’ ‘humanitarian’ BS from celebrities and executives. ITS A SHAM. As they get richer and richer, less wealth is left circulating beneath them. This is the single greatest underlying cause for the current US recession. The middle class can no longer afford to sustain their share of the economy. Their wealth has been gradually transfered to the richest 1%. One way or another, we suffer because of their incredible greed. We are talking about TRILLIONS of dollars which have been transfered FROM US TO THEM. All over a period of about 27 years. Thats Reaganomics for you. The wealth does not ‘trickle down’ as we were told it would. It just accumulates at the top. Shrinking the middle class and expanding the lower class. Causing a domino effect of socio-economic problems. But the rich will never stop. They just keep getting richer. Leaving even less of the pie for the other 99% of us to share. At the same time, they throw back a few tax deductible crumbs and call themselves ‘humanitarians’. Cashing in on the PR and getting even richer the following year. IT CAN’T WORK THIS WAY. Their bogus efforts to make the world a better place can not possibly succeed. Any ‘humanitarian’ progress made in one area will be lost in another. EVERY SINGLE TIME. IT ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT WORK THIS WAY. This is going to end just like a game of Monopoly. The current US recession will drag on for years and lead into the worst US depression of all time. The richest 1% will live like royalty while the rest of us fight over jobs, food, and gasoline. So don’t fall for any of this PR CRAP from Hollywood, Pro Sports, and Wall Street PIGS. ITS A SHAM. Remember: They are filthy rich EVEN AFTER their tax deductible contributions. Greedy pigs. Now, we are headed for the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time. Crime, poverty, and suicide will skyrocket. SEND A “THANK YOU” NOTE TO YOUR FAVORITE MILLIONAIRE. ITS THEIR FAULT. I’m not discounting other factors like China, sub-prime, or gas prices. But all of those factors combined still pale in comparison to that HUGE transfer of wealth to the rich. Anyway, those other factors are all related and further aggrivated because of GREED. If it weren’t for the OBSCENE distribution of wealth within our country, there never would have been such a market for sub-prime to begin with. IF IT WEREN’T FOR THE OBSCENE, UNREASONABLE, AND UNJUST DISTRIBUTION OF UNITED STATES WEALTH, THERE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN SUCH A MARKET FOR SUB-PRIME AND THERE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN A COLLAPSE IN THE HOUSING MARKET. Sub-prime did not cause the problem. It only accelerated the outcome. Which by the way, was another trick whipped up by greedy bankers and executives. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. The credit industry has been ENDORSED by people like Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Dr Phil, and many other celebrities. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. In fact, they specifically endorsed Countrywide by name. The same Countrywide widely responsible for predatory adjustable rate sub-prime lending and the accelerated collapse of the housing market. ENDORSED BY OPRAH WINFREY, ELLEN DEGENERES, AND DR PHIL. Now, there are commercial ties between nearly every industry and every public figure. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. It also drives up the cost for nearly every product and service on the market. So don’t fall for their ‘good will’ BS. ITS A LIE. If you fall for it, then you’re a fool. If you see any real difference between the moral character of a celebrity, politician, attorney, or executive, then you’re a fool. No offense fellow citizens. But we have been mislead by nearly every public figure. We still are. Even now, they claim to be ‘hurting’ right along with the rest of us. As if gas prices actually effect the lifestyle of a millionaire. ITS A LIE. IN 2007, THE RICHEST 1% INCREASED THEIR AVERAGE BOTTOM LINE WEALTH AGAIN. On average, they are now worth over $4,000,000 each. Thats an all time high. As a group, they are now worth well over $17,000,000,000,000. THATS WELL OVER SEVENTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS. Another all time high. Which by the way, is much more than the entire middle and lower classes combined. Also more than enough to pay off our national debt, fund the Iraq war for a decade, repair our infrastructure, and bail out the US housing market. Still think that our biggest problem is China? Think again. Its the 1% club. That means every big name celebrity, athlete, executive, entrepreneur, developer, banker, and lottery winner. Along with many attorneys, doctors, and politicians. If they are rich, then they are part of the problem. Their incredible wealth was not ‘created’, ‘generated’, grown in their back yard, or printed up on their command. It was transfered FROM US TO THEM. Directly and indirectly. Its become near impossible to spend a dollar without making some greedy pig even richer. Don’t be fooled by the occasional loss of a millionaire’s fortune. Overall, they just keep getting richer. They absolutely will not stop. Still, they have the nerve to pretend as if they care about ordinary people. ITS A LIE. NOTHING BUT CALCULATED PR CRAP. WAKE UP PEOPLE. THEIR GOAL IS TO WIN THE GAME. The 1% club will always say or do whatever it takes to get as rich as possible. Without the slightest regard for anything or anyone but themselves. Reaganomics. Their idea. Loans from China. Their idea. NAFTA. Their idea. Outsourcing. Their idea. Sub-prime. Their idea. High energy prices. Their idea. Oil ‘futures’. Their idea. Obscene health care charges. Their idea. The commercial lobbyist. Their idea. The multi-million dollar lawsuit. Their idea. The multi-million dollar endorsement deal. Their idea. $200 cell phone bills. Their idea. $200 basketball shoes. Their idea. $30 late fees. Their idea. $30 NSF fees. Their idea. $20 DVDs. Their idea. Subliminal advertising. Their idea. Brainwash plots on TV. Their idea. Vioxx, and Celebrex. Their idea. Excessive medical testing. Their idea. The MASSIVE campaign to turn every American into a brainwashed, credit card, pharmaceutical, medical testing, love-sick, celebrity junkie. Their idea. All of the above drive up the cost of living, shrink the middle class, concentrate the world’s wealth and resources, create a dominoe effect of socio-economic problems, and wreak havok on society. All of which have been CREATED AND ENDORSED by celebrities, athletes, executives, entrepreneurs, attorneys, and politicians. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. So don’t fall for any of their ‘good will’ ‘humanitarian’ BS. ITS A SHAM. NOTHING BUT TAX DEDUCTIBLE PR CRAP. In many cases, the ‘charitable’ contribution is almost entirely offset. Not to mention the opportunity to plug their name, image, product, and ‘good will’ all at once. Which is usually done just before or after the release of their latest commercial project. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. These filthy pigs even have the nerve to throw a fit and spin up a misleading defense with regard to ‘federal tax revenue’. ITS A SHAM. THEY SCREWED UP THE EQUATION TO BEGIN WITH. If the middle and lower classes had a greater share of the pie, they could easily cover a greater share of the federal tax revenue. They are held down in many ways because of greed. Wages remain stagnant for millions because the executives, celebrities, athletes, attorneys, and entrepreneurs, are paid millions. They over-sell, over-charge, under-pay, outsource, cut jobs, and benefits to increase their bottom line. As their profits rise, so do the stock values. Which are owned primarily by the richest 5%. As more United States wealth rises to the top, the middle and lower classes inevitably suffer. This reduces the potential tax reveue drawn from those brackets. At the same time, it wreaks havok on middle and lower class communities and increases the need for financial aid. Not to mention the spike in crime because of it. There is a dominoe effect to consider. IT CAN’T WORK THIS WAY. But our leaders refuse to acknowledge this. Instead they come up with one trick after another to milk the system and screw the majority. These decisions are heavily influensed by the 1% club. Every year, billions of federal tax dollars are diverted behind the scenes back to the rich and their respective industries. Loans from China have been necessary to compensate in part, for the red ink and multi-trillion dollar transfer of wealth to the rich. At the same time, the feds have been pushing more financial burden onto the states who push them lower onto the cities. Again, the hardship is felt more by the majority and less by the 1% club. The rich prefer to live in exclusive areas or upper class communities. They get the best of everything. Reliable city services, new schools, freshly paved roads, upscale parks, ect. The middle and lower class communities get little or nothing without a local tax increase. Which, they usually can’t afford. So the red ink flows followed by service cuts and lay-offs. All because of the OBSCENE distribution of bottom line wealth in this country. Anyway, when you account for all federal, state, and local taxes, the middle class actually pay about the same rate as the rich. The devil is in the details. So when people forgive the rich for their incredible greed and then praise them for paying a greater share of the FEDERAL income taxes, its like nails on a chalk board. I can not accept any theory that our economy would suffer in any way with a more reasonable distribution of wealth. Afterall, it was more reasonable 30 years ago. Before Reaganomics came along. Before GREED became such an epidemic. Before we had an army of over-paid executives, bankers, celebrities, athletes, attorneys, doctors, investors, entrepreneurs, developers, and sold-out politicians to kiss their asses. As a nation, we were in much better shape. Strong middle class, free and clear assets, lower crime rate, more widespread prosperity, stable job market, lower deficit, ect. Our economy as a whole was much more stable and prosperous for the majority. WITHOUT LOANS FROM CHINA. Now, we have a more obscene distribution of bottom line wealth than ever before. We have a sold-out government, crumbling infrastructure, energy crisis, home forclosure epidemic, credit crunch, weak US dollar, 13 figure national deficit, and 12 figure annual shortfall. The cost of living is higher than ever before. Most people can’t even afford basic health care. ALL BECAUSE OF GREED. I really don’t blame the 2nd -5th percentiles in general. No economy could ever function without some reasonable scale of personal wealth and income. But it can’t be allowed to run wild like a mad dog. ALBERT EINSTEIN TRIED TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. UNBRIDLED CAPITALISM ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT WORK. TOP HEAVY ECONOMIES ALWAYS COLLAPSE. Bottom line: The richest 1% will soon tank the largest economy in the world. It will be like nothing we’ve ever seen before. The American dream will be shattered. and thats just the beginning. Greed will eventually tank every major economy in the world. Causing millions to suffer and die. Oprah, Angelina, Brad, Bono, and Bill are not part of the solution. They are part of the problem. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MULTI-MILLIONAIRE HUMANITARIAN. EXTREME WEALTH MAKES WORLD PROSPERITY ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. WITHOUT WORLD PROSPERITY, THERE WILL NEVER BE WORLD PEACE OR ANYTHING EVEN CLOSE. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL. Of course, the rich will throw a fit and call me a madman. Of course, they will jump to small minded conclusions about ‘jealousy’, ‘envy’, or ’socialism’. Of course, their ignorant fans will do the same. You have to expect that. But I speak the truth. If you don’t believe me, then copy this entry and run it by any professor of economics or socio-economics. Then tell a friend. Call the local radio station. Re-post this entry or put it in your own words. Be one of the first to predict the worst economic and cultural crisis of all time and explain its cause. WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE.

So what can we do about it? Well, not much. Unfortunately, we are stuck on a runaway train. The problem has gone unchecked for too many years. The US/global depression is comming thanks to the 1% club. It would take a massive effort by the vast majority to prevent it. Along with a voluntary sacrifice by the rich. THATS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. But if you believe in miracles, then spend your money as wisely as possible. Especially in middle and lower class communities. Check the Fortune 500 list and limit your support of high profit/low labor industries (Hollywood, pro sports, energy, credit, pharmaceutical, cable, satelite, internet advertising, cell phone, high fashion, jewelry, ect.). Cancel all but one credit card for emergencies only. If you need a cell phone, then do your homework and find the best deal on a local pre-pay. If you want home internet access, then use the least expensive provider, and share accounts whenever possible. If you need to search, then use the less popular search engines. They usually produce the same results anyway. Don’t click on any internet ad. If you need the product or service, then look up the phone number or address and contact that business directly. Don’t pay to see any blockbuster movie. Instead, wait a few months and rent the DVD from a local store or buy it USED. If you want to see a big name game or event, then watch it in a local bar, club, or at home on network TV. Don’t buy any high end official merchendise and don’t support the high end sponsors. If its endorsed by a big name celebrity, then don’t buy it. If you can afford a new car, then make an exception for GM, Ford, and Dodge. If they don’t increase their market share soon, then a lot more people are going to get screwed out of their pensions and/or benefits. Of course, you must know by now to avoid those big trucks and SUVs unless you truly need one for its intended purpose. Don’t be ashamed to buy a foreign car if you prefer it. Afterall, those with the most fuel efficient vehicles consume a lot less foreign oil. Which accounts for a pretty big chunk of our trade deficit. Anyway, the global economy is worth supporting to some extent. Its the obscene profit margins, trade deficits, and BS from OPEC that get us into trouble. Otherwise, the global economy would be a good thing for everyone. Just keep in mind that the big 3 are struggling and they do produce a few smaller reliable cars. Don’t frequent any high end department store or any business in a newly developed upper class community. By doing so, you make developers richer and draw support away from industrial areas and away from the middle class communities. Instead, support the local retailer and the less popular shopping centers. Especially in lower or middle class communities. If you can afford to buy a home, then do so. But go smaller and less expensive. Don’t get yourself in too deep and don’t buy into the newly developed condos or gated communities. Instead, find a modest home in a building or neighborhood at least 20 years old. If you live in one of the poorer states, then try to support its economy first and foremost. Be on the lookout for commercial brainwash plots on TV. They are written into nearly every scene of nearly every show. Most cater to network sponsors and parent companies. Especially commercial health care. Big business is fine on occasion depending on the profit margins and profit sharing. Do your homework. If you want to support any legitimate charity, then do so directly. Never support any celebrity foundation. They spend most of their funding on PR campaigns, travel, and high end accomodations for themselves. Instead, go to Charitywatch.org and look up a top rated charity to support your favorite cause. In general, support the little guy as much as possible and the big guy as little as possible. Do your part to reverse the transfer of wealth away from the rich and back to the middle and lower classes. Unfortunately, there is no perfect answer. Jobs will be lost either way. Innocent children will starve and die either way. But we need to support the largest group of workers with the most reasonable profit margins. We also need to support LEGITIMATE charities (Check that list at Charitywatch.org). This is our only chance to limit the severity and/or duration of the comming US/global depression. In the meantime, don’t listen to Bernanke, Paulson, Bartiromo, Orman, Dobbs, Kramer, OReiley, or any other public figure with regard to the economy. They are all plenty smart but I swear to you that they will lie right through their rotten teeth. IT MAKES THEM RICHER. These people work for big business. The ‘experts’ they cite also work for big business. They are all motivated by their desire to accumulate more wealth. THEY WILL LIE RIGHT THROUGH THEIR ROTTEN TEETH. So don’t fall for their tricks. Instead, look at the big picture. The economic problems we face have been mounting for well over 20 years. All of them caused or aggrivated by a constant transfer of wealth from poorer to richer. Soon, it will cause the first ever GLOBAL DEPRESION. Its not brain surgery. Its simple math. Like I said, you are welcome to run this by any professor of economics or socio-economics. If thats not good enough, then look up what Einstein had to say about greed, extreme wealth, and its horrible concequences. I speak the truth. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

Its already underway. A massive campaign to divert our attention. Trump, Buffet, OReiley, Dobbs, Pickens, Norris, and several other well known filthy rich public figures have been running their mouths about the economy. Finally admitting a hint of severity after almost 2 years of denial. They even have the nerve to acknowledge the possibility of a US/global depression. Still, they refuse to acknowledge the single greatest underlying cause. Remember: Our national debt was way up BEFORE sub-prime. Consumer debt was way up BEFORE sub-prime. The cost of living was up BEFORE sub-prime. Wall Street profits were obscene BEFORE sub-prime. The middle class were loosing free and clear assets BEFORE sub-prime. Our infrastructure was in bad shape BEFORE sub-prime. Loans from China were taken out BEFORE sub-prime. The dollar was loosing value BEFORE sub-prime. So don’t let these cowardly filthy rich public figures divert your attention or limit your range of thought. THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CRISIS WAS NOT CAUSED BY A SINGLE POLICY OR PROCEDURE. IT WAS CAUSED PRIMARILY BY A MASSIVE TRANSFER OF WEALTH FROM POOR TO RICH. OTHERWISE, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUCH A MARKET FOR SUB-PRIME AND THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A GLOBAL CREDIT CRUNCH. MONEY DOES NOT GROW ON TREES AND IT DOES NOT FLOAT AWAY. IT ONLY TRANSFERS FROM ONE PARTY TO ANOTHER. ALBERT EINSTEIN TRIED TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

A word for those who respond with the usual ‘I know more than you. Look how smart, knowledgable, and articulate I am’ crap. Let me say this in advance. I don’t claim to be an expert in this field. But I did go on record with these predictions long before any public figure uttered the word ‘recession’. If you search long enough, you will find my early postings from ‘05′ and ‘06′. Including the first draft of this rant. Since then, I’ve gone on record against people like Greenspan, Bernanke, and Paulson. So far, my predictions have been accurate. Like I said. This is not brain surgery. For the mostpart, its simple math. When you concentrate the world’s wealth, you also concentrate its capital and shrink the middle class along with the potential market for every major industry. Homes go unsold. Bills go unpaid. Banks fail. More products go unsold. Jobs are lost. More banks fail. and so on. and so on. It happened 80 years ago. It will happen again. This time on a global scale. Throughout the cycle, the rich will tighten their grip. Concentrating the world’s wealth and resources even further and ensuring the collapse of every major economy worldwide. Think it can’t happen? Think again. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

Another thing. I don’t want credit for any of this. Otherwise, I would have given my full name a long time ago. As far as I’m concerned, you can put this rant in your own words and take credit for all of it. I don’t care. Just spread the word. Otherwise, the greatest injustice of all time will go down in history unchecked.

By the way. The bailout won’t work. IT WON’T WORK. The plan fails to address the fundamental problem. The middle class don’t need more credit. They need a reasonable share of the economic pie. They also need a lower cost of living and a chance to catch their breath. Most of all, they need to wake up and see the truth. GREED KILLS. IT WILL BE OUR DOWNFALL.

Friday, 03 October, 2008  
Blogger donkeyfarm said...

I agree The Bailout of All Bailouts is a Bad Idea !!


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Friday, 03 October, 2008  
Anonymous Leah PettePiece said...

The Time Has Come”
With my opologies to Lewis Carroll

While all of the Worlds’ financial markets burn, it has set me thinking. Long ago as a child I was asked to memorize “The Walrus and the Carpenter, by Lewis Carroll”, the words of the famous rhyme keep running through my head.” The Time has come, the Walrus said, To talk of many things: Of shoes..And ships and sealing wax—And why the sea is boiling hot—And weather pigs have wings.”
Rather a trite comment on the state of affairs we as the United States, and most of the rest of the world find ourselves in. It is time indeed to speak of many things, who will starve, who will commit suicide, who will have the money to feed their children, who won’t—who will still see a silver lining to an otherwise dismal state of affairs and who will only see more clouds in an already stormy black sky.
The world teeters on the brink of financial disaster…a loaf of bread here in the US costs on average $4.00, in India it is more than one days wages. The credit markets have dried up and the unsecured debts of ordinary people are astronomical, we have set up an entire society who depends on credit and has not a single idea how to live on what they earn.
Granted, this is some what everyone’s problem, but most importantly it is the problem of the working man or woman, we are the ones that will feel the crunch of this false economy. Having once been a business person I can tell you that most small business run on lines of credit, now that the reality of this economic crisis reaches the rest of the world we can clearly see that the inflated prices of physical property, homes and business has come home to roost and we see that nothings will ever be the same again. A house I once purchased for a mere $32,000 in the early 70’s sold last year again for half a million…any business person can tell you that that is an outrageous amount of money for a home that was originally built in the late 1930’s.
Any ordinary businessman would also tell you that while you may think that your grandmothers gold watch should be worth $1500 in reality it is only worth whatever the buyer is willing to pay.
How did we get to such a place, if you take the time to read Lewis Carroll’s Walrus piece you will see that we got here because we are a nation of followers. If person A pays $500,000 for a home that was built for $125,000 and person B follows that lead, soon we have an economy which is built on sand, lots and lots of sand. Unlike the Walrus, we can’t fathom a way to get seven maids with seven brooms to mop the sand away. What we got instead is a “Bailout” that really won’t do the job. We were as common Joe Six Pack American’s snookered! The trillion dollars of bailout cash won’t help, because the problem is systemic! Like a disease the United States became egregious the more we tried to keep up with the Jones the worse the problem became.
Now we are faced with grave concerns, we have come to the point where we must face the inevitable; we are going to be gobbled up like the oysters in the poem. Oh perhaps, not literally boiled in oil and eaten, but we will be gobbled up by the system that we created as each of us followed along believing the dream that things were ok, that property was indeed worth such outrageous prices, that every one could have a part of the American Dream Pie. We dear family, Joe Six Pack, are dinner just like the oysters in the Walrus, soon they…The powers that be will order up a loaf of bread, some vinegar and pepper and begin to feed on the bones of our financial fantasy!
Sadly just like the oysters we will have been ignorant of the facts! In the end of the poem the Walrus pretends sadness for the oysters, but when the Carpenter decides the walk is done and asks the oysters what they think…”the answer came there none—and this was scarcely odd because they’d eaten everyone!”
We dear public have been lied too, over and over again until we actually believed the lie, we took the bait right up to the last minute, we believed that the “Bailout” was good for everyone but especially for main street…alas now the tip of the truth begins to appear, the truth is that once again those who have the most win! Our economy and that of much of the world is in a serious decline and still the powers that be continue with the lie…”This is NOT a depression” one analyst said this morning, and “We are facing hard times ahead, but don’t worry Mr. and Mrs. Joe Six Pack, we are rushing that order for rose colored glasses, you should be receiving yours shortly in the mail for a small shipping fee of 700 Trillion dollars!

Tuesday, 07 October, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As every market on the planet is designing their own bailout solutions at this point, I wonder if there is more going on that is not being reported, did every country on the planet buy our bad debt? Where is the accountability? Are there different rules for CEO's and their executive management staff's? This bail-out is the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. Why didn't the Congress and Senate spread all the papers on the table and go over everything in detail, bring in the "financial experts", all the C.E.O.'s that caused this mess and have them explain why they made the decisions that they made, and if they understood the consequences and ramifications the country would face for these decisions. If they did,then they committed financial treason against the country. These warning signs where apparent over 4 years ago, yet the treasury ignored it, why?
In short, this bail-out is the largest kick-back in the history of the world. I'll never look at another wealthy individual again and believe that somehow they "earned" their rewards.

Wednesday, 08 October, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Subject: Do Facts Matter?



Do Facts Matter? Recriminations.

By Thomas Sowell

Abraham Lincoln said, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time."

Unfortunately, the future of this country, as well as the fate of the Western world, depends on how many people can be fooled on Election Day, just a few weeks from now.

Right now, the polls indicate that a whole lot of the people are being fooled a whole lot of the time.

The current financial bailout crisis has propelled Barack Obama back into a substantial lead over John McCain - which is astonishing in view of which man and which party has had the most to do with bringing on this crisis.

It raises the question: Do facts matter? Or is Obama's rhetoric and the media's spin enough to make facts irrelevant?

Fact Number One: It was liberal Democrats, led by Sen. Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, who for years - including the present year - denied that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taking big risks that could lead to a financial crisis.

It was Sen. Dodd, Congressman Frank, and other liberal Democrats who for years refused requests from the Bush administration to set up an agency to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

It was liberal Democrats, again led by Dodd and Frank, who for years pushed for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to go even further in promoting subprime mortgage loans, which are at the heart of today's financial crisis.

Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the president. So did Bush's secretary of the Treasury, five years ago.

Yet, today, what are we hearing? That it was the Bush administration "right-wing ideology" of "de-regulation" that set the stage for the financial crisis. Do facts matter?

We also hear that it is the free market that is to blame. But the facts show that it was the government that pressured financial institutions in general to lend to subprime borrowers, with such things as the Community Reinvestment Act and, later, threats of legal action by then Attorney General Janet Reno if the feds did not like the statistics on who was getting loans and who wasn't.

Is that the free market? Or do facts not matter?

Then there is the question of being against the "greed" of CEOs and for "the people." Franklin Raines made $90 million while he was head of Fannie Mae and mismanaging that institution into crisis.

Who in Congress defended Franklin Raines? Liberal Democrats, including Maxine Waters and the Congressional Black Caucus, at least one of whom referred to the "lynching" of Raines, as if it was racist to hold him to the same standard as white CEOs.

Even after he was deposed as head of Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines was consulted this year by the Obama campaign for his advice on housing!

The Washington Post criticized the McCain campaign for calling Raines an adviser to Obama, even though that fact was reported in the Washington Post itself on July 16th. The technicality and the spin here is that Raines is not officially listed as an adviser. But someone who advises is an adviser, whether or not his name appears on a letterhead.

The tie between Barack Obama and Franklin Raines is not all one-way. Obama has been the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae's financial contributions, right after Sen. Christopher Dodd.

But ties between Obama and Raines? Not if you read the mainstream media.

Facts don't matter much politically if they are not reported.

The media alone are not alone in keeping the facts from the public. Republicans, for reasons unknown, don't seem to know what it is to counterattack. They deserve to lose.

But the country does not deserve to be put in the hands of a glib and cocky know-it-all, who has accomplished absolutely nothing beyond the advancement of his own career with rhetoric, and who has for years allied himself with a succession of people who have openly expressed their hatred of America.

Wednesday, 08 October, 2008  
Blogger Peter C said...

We will be watching Paulson very carefully at www.taxpayertab.com. We welcome all assistance.

Regards,

Peter Cotton
http://www.juliusfinance.com

Thursday, 09 October, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want to waste anyone's time repeating what everyone already knows and feels. our government is packed with liars and thieves. We need a revolution: 1) VOTE EVERY INCUMBENT OUT, EVERY ONE INCLUDING YOUR FAVORITE LOCAL LIAR. 2) DON'T PAY A CENT IN TAXES AND IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED CHANGE YOUR W2 TO EXEMPT. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE BAILOUT AND THE CEOs GOOD LIFE. Show them what 300 million people can do when they are pissed off! Or else stop your moaning because YOU allowed this fiasco.

Thursday, 09 October, 2008  
Anonymous TMNK - The Me Nobody Knows said...

So let me understand the plan. I’m the one drowning in a sea of debt, but you throw the life preserver to the drunk Captain thats standing safely on shore? The same drunken captain (and crew) that caused the shipwreck in the first place?
It’s becoming more clear each day that “nobody Cares” Least of all those in Washington. - TMNK (The Me Nobody Knows)

Friday, 10 October, 2008  
Blogger John Wallace said...

THE SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION IS ON THE HORIZON

The words "No Taxation without Representation" began as a slogan in the period 1763-1776 just before the first American Revolution. The slogan summarized the primary grievance of the American colonists in the Thirteen Colonies who believed the lack of representation in the British Parliament was an illegal denial of their rights as English citizens. The colonists believed that the laws excessively taxing them for services they did not receive were illegal.

It has become apparent to most Americans that both houses of our Congress, just like the British Parliament of the 1760's and 1770's, no longer represents the interests of the American people. Our congress routinely passes legislation that benefits a wide variety of special interest groups at the expense of the average American citizen and taxpayer. Through the use of special interest bribes (I mean campaign contributions), it can now be said that America has the best congress that money can buy.

American taxpayers are seeing their taxes go up at every level of government, oftentimes for services and programs that they do not benefit from, nor approve of. Our local and school taxes are rising at a rate far exceeding any increases in our incomes. The U.S. congress and the Federal Reserve are printing fiat money (backed by nothing) as fast as the printing presses can print it and the American taxpayers are starting to get angry about the increasing burden of taxation placed upon them and they have every right to be angry.

The American taxpayers who live up to their responsibilities and who work hard (often holding two jobs) to pay their bills with less take-home money are:

1. paying for ongoing failed social engineering experiments in housing and education,
2. paying for the funding of anti-American, socialist organizations like LaRaza and ACORN,
3. paying for a variety of services provided to 15 million +/- illegal aliens,
4. paying for the bailout of large international banks,
5. paying for the bailout of Wall Street firms,
6. paying for the bailout of real estate investors and
7. paying for the bailout of people who are unable or unwilling to be responsible adults and who fail to pay their own bills, including their mortgages.

Many American citizens, particularly those who pay taxes, are frustrated by a government that no longer represents them, but rather represents the interests of an oligarchy of about one thousand political and financial elites who exert unconstitutional and illegal control over our government and economy for their personal gain.

The members of this oligarchy are not loyal Americans who have the best interests of the county in mind, but rather they are people who benefit financially or politically by keeping our country in a constant state of war, by dumbing down our education system, by devaluating our currency, by separating us into categories by race and ethnic origin, by drugging 6 million of children with mind altering drugs, by flooding our country with illegal aliens, and by chipping away at our nation's sovereignty, freedoms and liberties.

I believe that Americans are fast approaching a point of frustration and anger with their own government similar to what the American colonists reached in 1776. They want to take their country and government back from the corrupt political and financial elites who control it. Let's hope that the second American Revolution that we see on the horizon, is accomplished via the ballot box.
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John Wallace
New York Campaign for Liberty
Chatham, New York
www.NYCampaignForLiberty.com

Saturday, 11 October, 2008  
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Since the bailout already done, the question now is besides letting the economic back on track, what regulation should be done to prevent similar things from happen again…..

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The top management of the Public listed company ( belong to "public" ) monthly salary should be tied a portion of it to the shares price ( IPO or ave 5 years ).... so when the shares price drop, it don't just penalise the investors, but those who don't take well care of the company.....If this rule is pass on, without any need of further regulation, all industries ( as long as it is public listed ) will be self regulated......because the top management will be concern about their own pay check…… Instead of spending big money on hotel stay and luxury function……..
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Sunday, 12 October, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the earmarks attached to bailout are unforgivable. The wooden arrow one - who authored that? Any congressman or senator who attaches an earmark should have their name announced so that the public can enjoy who is behind these. Maybe then they will stop. Accountability....... something new.

Sunday, 12 October, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let the losers who were unable to successfully run their own companies SINK! It is not up to the innocent American taxpayer to pay for their failures!!! This holds true for the banks, for Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, for the automobile manufacturers and for any other private institution. We allow the government to take over our lives at our peril. Read the history of the Weimar Republic in pre-Hitler Germany and you'll know where we're headed. America's Constitution protects our inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Implicit in this is that there are no rights without property rights. The government has no right to forcibly steal the property (money) of US citizens through forced taxation, or the "invisible" taxation of these so-called "bail-outs" - and then re-distribute it to whoever they want. They are not bailing anyone out. This is just a huge power grab by the US government. And once the government assumes power, they never let it go. America's Constitution was meant to protect innocent, INDIVIDUAL human beings FROM the Government. We fought a revolutionary war to free ourselves from the centuries-old statism and socialism of Europe. We did not fight that war to emulate European statism or socialism at a later date. America should be proud that it is different from the rest of the world in its basic ideas. The world is drowning in a swamp of collectivist, power-hungry governments all enslaving their people's under the yoke of so-called altruism. By casting the individual as the evil one, collectivists have been able to assume obscene levels of power by the default of the people they are enslaving - since none of those people seem able to fight against the vicious governmental notion that we "owe our lives to other people". Let the United States at least be the one nation brave enough to stand up for the right of the individual to exist for his/her own sake and not for the sake of others. Let us proudly, selfishly believe in the power of the individual - an individual free to succeed or fail - but free to try. By "bailing out" companies, and nationalizing industries and the banking sector, the United States is crushing the only source of true power that could turn this government-created financial "crisis" around - and that source is the creative initiative of free, individual human beings. The government's only proper role is to protect us from the initiation of the use of force. They must not steal our freedoms by trying to manipulate economics, in the same way they should not be involved in the business of religion - and for the same reasons. It is not "evil CEOs" that are to blame for this financial mess - CEOs deserve whatever compensation their companies and shareholders want to pay them - that is a private matter. Capitalism is not to blame for this - free markets were never given the chance to work. Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac are government created organizations. The entire problem was created by government intervention into the economy -- and now Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Bush and seemingly all the governmental bureaucrats want to try to solve this problem by adding MORE government intervention!!!! It's insanity! The USA was built into the strong, vibrant nation it is through free-market principles and the efficiency of true capitalism. This financial mess is NOT the fault of capitalism! It is entirely government-caused. The government will just tear this country down to the level of any half-baked socialist state in Europe. Let's stand up for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, Capitalism and most importantly the FREE INDIVIDUAL and REASON! Get socialism out of America and the government off of our backs and out of our pockets. Who the heck are these people that just took over the government to tell us what to do with our money, when to succeed and when to fail? We are turning into a fascist state and Obama and Pelosi and Bush want to hurry that development along by this vicious idea that American businesses that fail should be "bailed-out", or nationalized. What a sad tragedy to see this happening in the United States of America. What are we allowing to happen to us? If you look at Venezuela, their radically leftist leader, Hugo Chavez, took power and became a dictator, not by some kind of bloody revolution - the people in Venezuela gradually VOTED their freedom away!!! And that is the same thing that is happening now in America! In a blind orgy of self-destruction in the name of a meaningless collectivism called socialism the United States is slowly selling its soul - what a small, seedy, despicable ending to a great country this will be if we don't wake up and go back to the basic principles of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. It is not too late – but it will be - sooner than you think unless you act now.

Thursday, 13 November, 2008  
Anonymous I.M. Small said...

THE GREAT BAILOUT

Obama is--we know--a reader,
And also--it may be--a leader;
But it is very hard to lead
A nation so consumed with greed.

It turns the Christ upon his head:
Meekness and poverty stay dead
Within an economic system
Bailing out theft, but never wisdom.

The "least of these" my brother is,
But no one wants to hear of this,
"Spreading the wealth" the Christian way
Becomes a sin; the poor the prey.

It was the age--O don´t you doubt--
To be known as the Great Bail-Out,
As Wealth bailed from the common good
But left the poor to drink the flood.

.

Saturday, 15 November, 2008  
Blogger cfblakeman said...

Why We Should Break Up Companies, Not Just Bail Them Out

Everyone is talking about whether we should bail out the mega-corporations and if so, what kind of constraints should be put on the use of that bailout money.

None of the of the solutions I've heard fix or even address the problem.

The problem is that the Federal Government has not followed a fundamental business principle - don't let any one customer become so big that losing it threatens the survival of your company (or in this case, your nation). No responsible company lets this happen, but the federal government has never thought to even address it.

A simple but very profound change to the Anti-Trust laws would solve this problem going forward. The Federal Government should institute a new rule - if a company is so large or central to the economy that its demise would threaten the economic security of our nation, it must be broken up.

The problem isn't that companies have acted greedily, stupidly, with incompetence or just had plain bad luck. The problem is that when some companies act this way or are hit with bad luck, they threaten the security of our nation. The smaller ones just go out of business, as a reminder to others to keep their house in order and don't overextend themselves.

Our present knee jerk response is to bail out these big, greedy, stupid or unlucky companies and just move on. The only signal this throws is for smaller companies to become as big as possible as fast as possible without regard to greed, stupidity, or their own future, so that when they get caught thinking badly or with their hand in the cookie jar, the government will save them.

Any bailout we think is necessary right now should be tied directly to the breakup of these companies so they can never again threaten our national security, and as such, would never again require another bailout. Greed, stupidity and serendipity would take their victims and the rest of us could keep on going.

Some will say this is over-regulation of business by government - a form of socialism. "Let the free market determine how big a company gets." (Hint: we don't have a Free Market or we wouldn't be talking bailouts.)

One of the basic purposes of government is to ensure the security of the nation. Making sure our economy is never again taken to the brink by the greed or stupidity of a few big companies is well within the purview of government.

Socialism is redistibution of wealth - bailing out individuals or companies that were greedy, stupid, incompetent or unlucky. If we don't tie these bailouts to the breakup of these behemoths, it's the corporate version of the Great Society all over again. We found out welfare didn't work then, but apparently we're going to have to learn that lesson all over again.

http://blog.teamnimbuswest.com

Sunday, 16 November, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think we should all ask our congressmen to take the following pledge:

I believe that it is my responsibility to spend tax payer dollars as wisely as possible. I believe that any congressman who shows poor judgment should resign from office.

I hereby solemnly pledge that
if I vote in favor of giving hard-earned tax dollars to a failing company, and if that company requires additional public funding or goes bankrupt within five years of the bailout, I will resign from public office and will not run again.

Tuesday, 18 November, 2008  
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Thursday, 20 November, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is responsible, what is the plan, if I'm a responsible person why should I pay? I almost laugh while these discussions are being waged but I’m to busy crying.

About a trillion dollars was leveraged at about 70:1. A nice 70trillion dollars – at least? A few hundred billion is nothing, a few thousand billion is nothing.

These bailouts are simply putting out fires to save a structure. The "success" of American Capitalism is not now infecting the entire planet's financial system and bringing it to ruin.
We may lose big if we lose the worlds confidence.

So my question is: How tough will it be for a 70 trillion dollar thief to convince his victims to trust him again? What do you think?

Sunday, 23 November, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Option 1) If a person has a $1000 per month 30 year mortgage and rather than defaulting on the loan, why isn't the loan being restructured for say $750 (or whatever they can afford) per month for 40 (or however long)years? That way the Financial Institutes still get their money and a family gets to keep their home... (the Financial Institute will take a loss BUT not a complete loss... hence no Bailout required)
Option 2) Rather than giving money to bailout the Financial Institutes, why doesn't the Fed just subsidizes these mortgages (ie pay some/most of these folk's mortgages who are going into default)

Wednesday, 26 November, 2008  
Anonymous Bailout said...

We are all victims of the bigger fool theory. The idea is that there is a bigger fool who will buy this worthless sub prime loan from us. Oh dear. There isn't. Whoops.

Wednesday, 26 November, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The geat Ford coverup. Ford is asking for Billions of dollars of bailout money, while they are secretly distroying excess inventory. I was at a junk yard in Vermont yesterday and sitting there were four 2004 Lincoln town cars with 6 miles on them. New car stickers in the windows that read $45,000. They were leftovers that went to an auction and didn't sell. They have been sitting there since 2005 at $5 a day storage. The insurance company has written them off and has sent them to be crushed. Nothing can be salvaged on them. An agent will be on site to make sure when they are crushed, that nothing has been taken off them. There is another thirty cars that are slated to be crushed also. Thats 34 cars at $45,000 each. You do the math. This is just in Albany NY. If they are doing this in other cities, how many billions of dollars are they throwing away, or hiding. They don't need a bailout, they need to sell their own inventory not distroy it.

Thursday, 04 December, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't say I often agree with comrade Reich, but in this case he's right.

BTW, probably the best analysis of how we got here and why the bailout won't work I've read is here:

http://social.consimworld.com/profiles/blogs/crime-of-the-century

Strange place, but well written and very good.

Saturday, 13 December, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Broken link, splice together to see piece:

http://social.consimworld.com/profiles/blogs
/crime-of-the-century

Saturday, 13 December, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This entire crisis is proof we have a headless government. Democrats and Republicans alike are not out to help everyday Americans. We need a new Reality Party. The ideas that the pinheads who run are country now have are only salt to the wounds that greed has caused.
The auto bailout for instance is ignorance at it's finest as was the bank bailout. How can any rational person think that giving money directly to these corporate greedy simpletons will help.
I have the best idea for the auto industry, and it is simple. Every legal citizen with a drivers license should get a coupon to purchase a new vehicle from the maker of there choice. the coupon can be used for a tax break or a new car, thus we the people make the decision of how our money is spent. The auto industry makes to many new cars that the banks won't finance, it is no wonder they are going under. The Government is giving money away anyway so why not let the taxpayer receive something. This coupon incentive will snowball the rest of the economy, because more cash flow will enter and it won't be just given to the greedy banks and Auto CEO's. Also in order to stimulate the economy we must relax the credits standards not give pennys to the problem and since the banks and the auto idiots get a clean credit slate, so should every other American citizen. Enough is enough we are not here to help the already wealthy preserve there stolen funds, we are here to survive and excel, and the headless government must grow some eyes and ears to see and here what is happening, and the lips they may grow must stay closed, because the lip service we have been getting is unprecedented and nothing but lies to pacify until they get wealthier while everyone else suffers..

Fight for your rights and give no more money to a government that doesn't know what it is doing, it only shoots blindly into the night with BB's instead of bullets at monsters that don't exist, the only monster is greed.

Friday, 02 January, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear all, no offence, but i persnoally feel, before seeking a bailout, would it not be in order, that the company seeking a financial package / bailout from the public money, in the first place cut down all its flambount expenditures, like business class tickets, 5/7 star hotel stays, super luxury cars, etc to its top executives, CEO's, directors / promotors, etc.

vivekbrjain@gmail.com

Thursday, 05 February, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bailout 2008, a poem by David Jeffrey

Like a bloodied warrior,
laying broken and torn.

Like a dying soldier, hopeless and forlorn.

But the blood, it be green,
the color of money.

And the soldier is an economy,
and it is anything but funny.

Broken are it's people and shattered are their dreams.

Thanks to the ultra rich and their full proof schemes.

It is a tragedy with more pain to come.

Finance will be Hell, and their wills will be done.

Saturday, 07 February, 2009  
Blogger Larry said...

NO more money gets releases to financial inst./Banks until the first 700 billion is accounted for.
This is Tax Payer Money and its not acceptable for banks to tell us they don't have to account for the money. If they don't account for it and how is was intended to be used, we want it back. NOW.

Now lets use our brains, Roll back all mortgages outstanding from underhanded lending to 1 %,
the difference between 1% and what it was sold for the issuers will have to eat. That will stop forclosures and get money moving again. As for the Banks that issued the loans. They already took home their money in outragous salaries and bonuses. Its time they start working the problems they created. We're giving billions to billionairs without any accountability and still have nothing to show for it. They stole the damn money in the first place.

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Thursday, 12 February, 2009  
Blogger GiGwriter said...

I'm pretty ignorant about politics and economics. All I know is, when you're in the middle you pay for everyone.

Million-dollar bonuses for executives who whine because they might have to retire on 5 billion dollars instead of 10 billion.

Greedy uneducated people trying to live larger than they can afford and failing badly.

The hopeless and the slackers who can't or won't make any contribution to society.

Which leaves the poor middle-income slob watching 25-35% of her salary sliced off to support the aforementioned, and is now facing even further demands under all these bailouts, with no hope of retiring safely.

Makes you think playing fair, living simply and having integrity doesn't count for much. Not in this life, anyway.

Wednesday, 18 February, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Thursday, 19 February, 2009  
Blogger Orion said...

Punishing The Wise:

While of noble intent, the intent to help the economy and American people in the form of a bailout package is the gravest fallacy we may ever experience in our lifetimes. Our children will likely continue to pay for these decisions, while we are almost assured to pay for these decisions for the rest of our lives.

First and foremost, I would like to remind any reader what taxpayer money is meant for. Taxes are meant to increase the marginal social benefit to all of us by providing goods and services (such as parks, bans on pollution, or subsidies of fuel-efficient vehicles) that would not otherwise be produced without taxes. Things like defense, and education of our nation are social benefits that we all enjoy and are a result of taxpayer dollars.

This entire epidemic is comical to me because as a freshman in college I learned that what we are doing now is a bad idea. Perhaps all of our politicians skipped that freshman economics class that shows dead weight loss as a result of taxation and subsidies.

The reason that these bailouts are a bad idea is simple; we are punishing the wise, and rewarding the foolhardy. A short story about experiences in my life may paint a clear picture.

In 2005 Accredited Home Lenders, a company devoted to sub-prime lending, and refinancing, attempted to recruit me. Based on growth rates in the stock price, I judged (correctly) that the industry was as the peak of a bubble after 5-years of unprecedented growth. I was baited with the $100,000 a year salary, which I declined because I saw the toppling of the industry looming. In an attempt to diversify my skill set I became and Underwriter of Healthcare Insurance for Aetna, and ironically was laid off a year later due to downsizing. I then joined Robert Half International in 2007, a staffing company, and much to my amusement, a large number of my candidates looking for work were ex-loan agents from companies like Accredited Home Lenders. At this point in time I knew I had made a wise decision.

During the period from 2005-2007 I thought about purchasing a house, but after doing the math, I realized that although I could get approved for a loan, I would not be able to afford the payments over rate spikes that I thought were likely to occur since rates had been so low, for so long. We now know abnormally low interest rates were one of the catalysts of our current dire economic position. Allan Greenspan had a good run, but should have hiked rates as his term neared closure.

There are lessons from the past that we are ignoring. The great depression left many homeless, starving, desperate, and hardened. One out of four of us could not find jobs. What followed was economic boom, and rebuilding. It was a reset of the bubble that occurred during the roaring 20’s, or in our case the roaring 1995 to 2005, which has yet to be named.

Rather then let our country reset, we have continually taken steps towards socializing our country by taking taxpayer revenue to subsidize failing financial institutions. This is not representative of capitalism, or Laize Faire. Whether anyone has recognized it, I do not believe that we still live in a country that subscribes to capitalism, or free markets. Our first step in the wrong direction was perhaps the bailout that no one seems to remember of Long Term Capital Management, a group of the most educated, intellectuals in the world, running a hedge fund. You’d think we would have learned our lesson the first time and reformed after this, “narrowly averted crisis.” If you do not know the story I highly recommend looking into the story surrounding LTCM.

People who are currently underwater bought their houses at the peak or height of a boom, or refinanced based on artificially inflated values, and are now realizing that assets, like your car, or the stock market, do not always go up. A wise person would know this, while a foolish person would speculate that hopefully prices would continue to increase.

I could not afford to buy a house during the period from 2005-2007, and even now in 2009, on what I consider a reasonably good salary; I’m hesitant to purchase a house since I know my financial limitations. Each $100,000 I borrow at this point in time equates to approximately a $600.00 payment per month for the loan, and does not include property taxes, insurance, and repair and maintenance reserves. Over the last year I finally saw houses approaching a level I might be able to afford, but they are still priced just out of my reach. According to Dataquick, median home prices for my area in Contra Costa County are down 50% since December 2007, and rest at $250,000. This is a loan payment of $1,800, again, just slightly out of my reach as a single earner.

The loan agents that made these loans were not loaning their money out, they were loaning taxpayer dollars out and made billions doing so. This was what our bailout money went towards.

The lesson here is that we are again artificially inflating values of single-family houses to unaffordable levels by allowing people to refinance bad debt rather then let them lose their houses, file for bankruptcy, and move into apartments, as they should for making foolish decisions. We are punishing the taxpayers for the bandwagon of foolish individuals that took out loans on properties they could not afford. As a result of this bailout package, the reset that some of the wiser people in this world were waiting for may never fully reset. I may not be able to purchase a house as a result of this bailout package and it sickens me to think I may have been foolish by being wise.

I would have rather gone through another great depression then submit to socialism. I would rather be unemployed then watch the federal government garnish my wages in the form of increased taxes. California is already punishing me by increasing my already ridiculous income taxes. We will all pay for this for the rest of our lives, and what saddens me is that I supported Obama because I thought he would be able to be the one politician that could make unpopular decisions that were the correct decisions to make. I still think he will do great things for our country, and still support him, even though I feel he has already made one of the gravest errors our country may experience for decades to come by designing and approving this bailout.

Thursday, 19 February, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bailout 2008, a poem by David Jeffrey

Like a bloodied warrior,
laying broken and torn.

Like a dying soldier, hopeless and forlorn.

But the blood, it be green,
the color of money.

And the soldier is an economy,
and it is anything but funny.

Broken are it's people and shattered are their dreams.

Thanks to the ultra rich and their full proof schemes.

It is a tragedy with more pain to come.

Finance will be Hell, and their wills will be done.

Saturday, 07 March, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Tuesday, 17 March, 2009  
Blogger annonymous said...

Mr. Reich,
It seems like all the "brain surgeons" in Washington weren't watching the store. It was the regulators in DC that were pressuring the banks to make bad loans. It was THE REGULATORS. Clinton wasn't watching the store & we got hit on 9/11. Bush left the economy to big business & we found out that the Enrons of the world were on every corner. NOBODY WAS WATCHING THE STORE. WE WERE ALL HOODWINKED.

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Saturday, 11 April, 2009  
Blogger robert614 said...

Dr. Reich, It is very confusing to me. What I don't understand is this.

AIG or a division of AIG sold insurance policies covering mortages that go into default. The policy holders of this insurance were the banks who has billions of dollars worth of sub prime mortgages which defaulted in foreclosure. The claims exceeded AIG reserve and the US Government step in to keep AIG from bankruptcy and then possibly going out of business and not covering general casualty policies auch fire auto and liability insurance.

So if AIG is now able to pay off claims to their bank customers on default mortgages with government money. Why do the banks need more of the the government's money to cover the same loses that they are collecting from their AIG Policies?

I thought that the law prohibited someone from collecting twice on a insurance lost.

Robert Wagner
Sherman Oaks CA.

Monday, 20 April, 2009  
Anonymous Ares Vista said...

When the government is the major stock holder of any corporation, and the president is firing CEO's, that is socialism.

Thursday, 04 June, 2009  
Blogger Past Expiry said...

A cartoon about the auto bailouts...
http://pastexpiry.blogspot.com/2009/06/cartoon-public-transportation.html

Monday, 08 June, 2009  

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